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Message Board Q & A / Re: Embarrassing pop up ads
« Last post by WhistlingBadger on September 08, 2025, 10:27:04 am »Well, those are big steps in the right direction. Thanks for all you do, Sleek!
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Bows / Re: Do you have a chronograph? Id like help.
« Last post by Del the cat on September 08, 2025, 05:01:25 am »I did this some time back. Being a crossbow it had less error than shooting off the fingers, tho' admittedly it's a shorter metal bow, but vibration etc could still be relevant.
Del
https://bowyersdiary.blogspot.com/2011/11/mass-velocity-and-energy.html
Del
https://bowyersdiary.blogspot.com/2011/11/mass-velocity-and-energy.html
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Bows / Do you have a chronograph? Id like help.
« Last post by sleek on September 08, 2025, 12:28:40 am »I want to do a mass experiment. Im looking for a trend and trying to remove confirmation bias, so crowd sourcing should help.
The hypothesis: A bow will not dry fire as quickly as it will fire with a poper arrow weight
The experiment: Shoot 5 times with a 3 gpp arrow and get your average speed. Then increase the arrow weight by .5gpp repeating the experiment until you are at 6gpp. Record the results.
I have this idea that a bow, like an engine, needs to be loaded a certain amount to keep the limbs from warping and loosing a lot of energy. Thats energy that will increase arrow speed and momentum. I suspect there are two arrow weight ranges that any bow will fire best at. One will be extremely light weight for max speed and the other will be heavy for max energy. This experiment focuses on maximum speed.
The premises: This deals with harmonics. Much like an out of balance tire, there are two speeds where you will find the vibrations peak, and conversely where they go away entirely canceled out. The idea carries over to bows. The tips each travel in an arc like a tire rim, weighted by the arrow. If the rate of tip travel is at the correct speed ( tire rpm ) then the limb vibrations should cancel out or peak, and that will reflect in arrow speed.
I have seen this myself in exactly one bow before, but I was also looking for it. Its easy to find what you look for, aka, confirmation bias. So if yall have a chronograph and some time to kill, id be really interested in your help and results.
The hypothesis: A bow will not dry fire as quickly as it will fire with a poper arrow weight
The experiment: Shoot 5 times with a 3 gpp arrow and get your average speed. Then increase the arrow weight by .5gpp repeating the experiment until you are at 6gpp. Record the results.
I have this idea that a bow, like an engine, needs to be loaded a certain amount to keep the limbs from warping and loosing a lot of energy. Thats energy that will increase arrow speed and momentum. I suspect there are two arrow weight ranges that any bow will fire best at. One will be extremely light weight for max speed and the other will be heavy for max energy. This experiment focuses on maximum speed.
The premises: This deals with harmonics. Much like an out of balance tire, there are two speeds where you will find the vibrations peak, and conversely where they go away entirely canceled out. The idea carries over to bows. The tips each travel in an arc like a tire rim, weighted by the arrow. If the rate of tip travel is at the correct speed ( tire rpm ) then the limb vibrations should cancel out or peak, and that will reflect in arrow speed.
I have seen this myself in exactly one bow before, but I was also looking for it. Its easy to find what you look for, aka, confirmation bias. So if yall have a chronograph and some time to kill, id be really interested in your help and results.
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Message Board Q & A / Re: Embarrassing pop up ads
« Last post by sleek on September 08, 2025, 12:07:56 am »If a few put a lot in and the rest sit back and enjoy the improvements, im afraid that may generate some dissent among the members and thats not the kind of conflict I want to have here. I WILL be creating a members lounge where paying members get something extra for their contributions.
Either way, GOOD NEWS! I believe I figured out how to get rid of the smutt ads. However, I am not yet able to reduce the pop ups that cover the whole page. That will come soon as I can though. Either way, a small win is STILL a win.
Either way, GOOD NEWS! I believe I figured out how to get rid of the smutt ads. However, I am not yet able to reduce the pop ups that cover the whole page. That will come soon as I can though. Either way, a small win is STILL a win.
JW is correct, its will cost a decent amount to get the forum updated. I am reluctant to ask anyone here for money for one big reason. Others people money is a very big responsibility. While I can guarantee the site will improve in many ways, I cant promise these ads will go away with this update. Im told they should but thats not the 100% answer I need to take on risking other folks money. The way I look at it, if im not willing to put my money in it, I have no business even thinking about asking members to pitch in. So, Im going to get these updates done, but only with my money, and that takes me time. Im hoping to have this forum updated and ad free by the end of this year. Thats my goal.
I understand your concerns, im very sorry for the trouble you are experiencing, and I will get it fixed. Unfortunately, its not going to be fast.
But what if people value this forum enough that they feel they want to participate in the improvement? By turning them down you rob them of the joy they feel in participation. Sit with that a moment when you get the time, buddy.
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Bows / Re: Looking for a 400 yard shot
« Last post by willie on September 07, 2025, 02:56:55 pm »I have heard of using large plastic bags loosely stuffed with the lightweight plastic grocery bags for a backstop
a screen in front of it for paper tuning sound like a good idea.
a screen in front of it for paper tuning sound like a good idea.
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Bows / Re: Looking for a 400 yard shot
« Last post by sleek on September 07, 2025, 02:50:10 pm »Thing is, these arrows are .300" thick, moving at speeds over 250 fps. They like to explode when hitting a target. If I could find a target that allows these arrows to sink in and not break that would help. Paper tuning would get me leaps and bounds into getting good flight. Anyone know of a good target for stopping flight arrows?
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Bows / Re: Looking for a 400 yard shot
« Last post by willie on September 07, 2025, 02:41:38 pm »I wish I had a spot to shoot......potential 486 yard
if a guy had a way recover arrows at fifty yards or less
you could fine tune the clean release and fletching issues
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Around the Campfire / Re: What Did You Do Today?
« Last post by Eric Krewson on September 07, 2025, 10:04:37 am »Had a good time at the Key Cave Refuge this afternoon; the doves were high and flying with the wind at their tail. I couldn't hit anything, so I reviewed my shooting form. I realized I wasn't putting my face down hard on my stock which threw off my sight picture. Back in my younger days I was really deadly so all the missing was very frustrating. At one time I had bird dogs, a great retriever and was wing shooting every chance I got.
Now I only shoot my shotgun once a year on opening day of dove season and haven't shot well in years. I changed to a more correct form and almost everything I shot at fell out of the sky, I had forgotten how to shoot a shotgun but once I had it back, I was deadly again.
The field was just OK, no big flights of doves, the sunflowers were completely over grown with morning glories.
There was a dad with his son young down from me, both were really struggling to get a dove. After shooting all afternoon they only got one bird, every time I knocked a bird down, I would hold it up and motion for the youngster to come get it. He was really excited about having something to take home.
It was a rainy dismal day but everyone I talked to in the field was having fun. I quit wearing camo 30 years ago but got out my old turkey hunting outfit so I could hide better from the dove's sharp eyes in the grown-up rows of sunflowers and morning glory vines.
The field was a huge sunflower field.
Now I only shoot my shotgun once a year on opening day of dove season and haven't shot well in years. I changed to a more correct form and almost everything I shot at fell out of the sky, I had forgotten how to shoot a shotgun but once I had it back, I was deadly again.
The field was just OK, no big flights of doves, the sunflowers were completely over grown with morning glories.
There was a dad with his son young down from me, both were really struggling to get a dove. After shooting all afternoon they only got one bird, every time I knocked a bird down, I would hold it up and motion for the youngster to come get it. He was really excited about having something to take home.
It was a rainy dismal day but everyone I talked to in the field was having fun. I quit wearing camo 30 years ago but got out my old turkey hunting outfit so I could hide better from the dove's sharp eyes in the grown-up rows of sunflowers and morning glory vines.
The field was a huge sunflower field.
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Around the Campfire / Re: What Did You Do Today?
« Last post by Eric Krewson on September 07, 2025, 09:50:17 am »A little follow up on my trail clearing, the mower operator found out he could get his mower down the trail to the grown-up spot once the log was removed.
The trail went from blocked to open in short order.
The trail went from blocked to open in short order.
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Bows / Re: BITH BOWS
« Last post by legend on September 07, 2025, 09:49:09 am »Thanks willie and Pat . Yeh Pat my aim is to slightly fill the handle area out with some leather ( back and belly ) and wrap with either some red artificial sinew or some brown waxed thread . Just waiting for my piece of Ash board 6ft 6" x 2 1/2" . As stated previous I have the woodworking skills and the knowledge which Ive gained through previous builds and all the info I get from yourselves and others on here , so thanks .