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Title: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on December 23, 2015, 03:19:30 pm
Well Fellers,

To all those who attend the Marshall shoot on memorial day weekend(you know who who are)

Theres only one rule...rest is all you!!!

make any bow of any natural materials no longer than 24" total length...

go shoot the course!!!!

Game on!!!!

heres one im currently working on so far ...osage of course  >:D

19.5" ntn ...21" total....24@10" draw  >:D

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right after i unbraced it

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I also say we make soft blunt tipped arrows with flu flu feathers on em and play dodge ball!!!  >:D  :laugh:

Now lets see who else is in...show me the goods boys!!! i know some of you have started as well
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: paulsemp on December 23, 2015, 03:44:27 pm
Not only am I in on the challenge but I'm definitely in on a little game of bow and arrow war >:D one more thing I think we should add is let's do a flight shoot at that bear across the pond.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: wizardgoat on December 23, 2015, 04:10:21 pm
Looks like fun! Wish I could be there again, had a great time
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on December 23, 2015, 04:47:43 pm
I'm excited about this mini bow challenge.  I got my bow reflexed and tempered.  Its almost ready for sinew. 


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Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on December 23, 2015, 05:24:52 pm
You're one brave feller. Stand there for pics with those trousers on! The bent stick is impressive.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: JW_Halverson on December 23, 2015, 05:34:04 pm
Small bow challenge?  Are you over compensating for something?  >:D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badly Bent on December 23, 2015, 05:34:26 pm
I may be getting in on this, except for the dodge the arrow part. My reflex's aren't what they used to be.
Just cut up a deer today and kept the back sinew, should be enough to make a little sinew backed- back scratcher bow.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on December 23, 2015, 05:47:37 pm
Gonna be a bunch of little rocket launchers, but them little feller's are hard to hit much with , y'all are gonna have a blast
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: paulsemp on December 23, 2015, 05:49:00 pm
I got plenty for you Greg.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: JonW on December 23, 2015, 05:52:37 pm
Too bad this is out of travel distance for me. I would be all over it.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on December 23, 2015, 06:02:10 pm
Too bad this is out of travel distance for me. I would be all over it.
Welllll, if we pack light then we could travel together.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on December 23, 2015, 06:32:56 pm
Not only am I in on the challenge but I'm definitely in on a little game of bow and arrow war >:D one more thing I think we should add is let's do a flight shoot at that bear across the pond.

Oooo...That could be interesting n fun too... :laugh: im sure will come up with all kinds of "good" ideas with em...  :laugh:
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on December 23, 2015, 06:37:05 pm
I may be getting in on this, except for the dodge the arrow part. My reflex's aren't what they used to be.


Sweet...your reflexes looked fine last time i saw ya in oct. ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on December 23, 2015, 06:50:14 pm
Hummmm gots me think'n............ :-\
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on December 23, 2015, 07:05:07 pm
Hummmm gots me think'n............ :-\
DBar

Bill Im a thinkin your gonna join this lil circus parade!!!  ;D i dont even have 5 hours into that one yet...aint much work to em
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on December 23, 2015, 08:37:24 pm
I may be getting in on this, except for the dodge the arrow part. My reflex's aren't what they used to be.
Just cut up a deer today and kept the back sinew, should be enough to make a little sinew backed- back scratcher bow.

Looks like Greg identified himself as the easy target  >:D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on December 23, 2015, 08:47:00 pm
Come on Chris lets see the money shot on that puppy
haul it back  we know you can do it. LOL
Looks like you folks are getting into it already.
I aint had reflexes for a long time so no dodging  for me but I think I can get 90yds out of a mini bow and if you can get outa bed early enough I might have time to shoot the course with ya or come a few days early before the crowd hits and we can have all our arrows  lost before  they even get there
The skunk cabbage  swamp will swallow  t hem little  buggers right up
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on December 24, 2015, 07:37:27 am
I've been looking for some cheap soft foam balls to put on the ends of our arrows.  Found these on the big auction site.  6 kitten toy balls for a buck fifty free shipping.  They are coming from hong kong so if I order them now they might be delivered in time for Marshall.  Do you guys think they will work?

Features:
Perfect for cats and kittens, also great for mice or any small pets, and shooting your friends with arrows without putting an eye out.
Bright colored
Soft foam
Ball Diameter: Approx. 3.5cm/ 1.38''

Package Included:
6 x Pet Cat Kitten Soft Foam Play Balls

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Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on December 24, 2015, 08:48:05 am
I gave my first attempt away last night. It was 11 @ 11, 23". It would send a boo skewer across the road and out of my sight. I'm guessing 50-65 yards. I can do better! I had square nuts screwed on the end of the skewers to get some tip weight. At 8 yards it blew the skewer and nut right through a heavy cardboard box. Its amazing what kind of power they have. I dug through my outdoor scrap pile and found a few more prospects.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PatM on December 24, 2015, 08:58:20 am
Tuukka  mentioned a bow made from a strip of goat horn about 2 feet long and sinew backed shot a crude arrow 250 yards.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Stringman on December 24, 2015, 09:46:31 am
Well, doggone it! Now my wheels are turning.  >:(

Might haveta go dig thru the wood stack.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: burn em up chuck on December 24, 2015, 10:44:44 am
     thats pretty cool guys, keep them coming. i'd like to see all of them

                                                                chuck
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on December 24, 2015, 10:47:03 am
Well, doggone it! Now my wheels are turning.  >:(



That is what this is supposed to do Scooter! I'm sure I will build and shoot at least 4 or 5 of these little guys before I take one to the race track. It takes very little time to tiller 11" of limb :)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on December 24, 2015, 03:19:48 pm
Tuukka  mentioned a bow made from a strip of goat horn about 2 feet long and sinew backed shot a crude arrow 250 yards.

We have thought of that,and i am contemplating it...a horn bow wood give you the longest draw,and handle a heavier weight...so how far do u think a 24" hornbow can draw? Haha  >:D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on December 24, 2015, 03:44:47 pm
Chuck built a 30" horn sinew that drew 18.5 or 19", looked like he could of squeezed a tiny bit more out
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PatM on December 24, 2015, 04:20:43 pm
Tuukka  mentioned a bow made from a strip of goat horn about 2 feet long and sinew backed shot a crude arrow 250 yards.

We have thought of that,and i am contemplating it...a horn bow wood give you the longest draw,and handle a heavier weight...so how far do u think a 24" hornbow can draw? Haha  >:D

Here is his quote:

Last May we tested a tiny, old hornbow at our flight range. Less than two feet long, a thin slab of kinda Yumi-shaped goat horn backed with moose sinew. No wooden core. A mellow reflex and no siyahs apart from slight recurves bent into the horn ends. The maker of the bow had told that he had made his longest shot years ago with this bow. We were sceptical.

The full draw of the horn bow would've been about 16". But none of us could draw the bow that far fingerstyle: the string angle was digit-crushing. At just 12 inches of draw the bow would surely fail to deliver, even though it pulled a respectable 47# at that draw.

Our 16", 130-grain arrows were crude to the extreme: roughly beltsanded, unround, unsmooth, untested hickory sticks suitable for kindling. But they sure did disappear into the sky at launch.

The best shot (out of six) from the tiny bow was measured at 250 yards. This with baaad arrows and a massive underdraw. It seemed impossible for this bow not to reach 300 yards and beyond with a full draw, a trained thumb-ring loose and finely crafted arrows.

It'd be interesting to make an ultra-short sinew-backed 50-pound wood bow and see what it can do. Maybe 24 inches nock-to-nock, with a 12-inch draw? Very short draws clearly have potential in the Flight game.

Tuukka

 
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on December 24, 2015, 04:30:00 pm
This looks like it would be fun.  I have a family friend that lives in Battle Creek, MI.  I talked to him about staying there during the Marshall event one year.  What weekend is the event?  Is it the same weekend each year???

OneBow

BTW - I'm thinking a hornbow, even a 24 inch one, could be dang near lethal strength!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Aaron H on December 24, 2015, 07:01:02 pm
Oh that looks like SO much fun,  wish I could join you fellas this year.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: JW_Halverson on December 24, 2015, 07:58:21 pm
Tuukka  mentioned a bow made from a strip of goat horn about 2 feet long and sinew backed shot a crude arrow 250 yards.

We have thought of that,and i am contemplating it...a horn bow wood give you the longest draw,and handle a heavier weight...so how far do u think a 24" hornbow can draw? Haha  >:D

Here is his quote:

Last May we tested a tiny, old hornbow at our flight range. Less than two feet long, a thin slab of kinda Yumi-shaped goat horn backed with moose sinew. No wooden core. A mellow reflex and no siyahs apart from slight recurves bent into the horn ends. The maker of the bow had told that he had made his longest shot years ago with this bow. We were sceptical.

The full draw of the horn bow would've been about 16". But none of us could draw the bow that far fingerstyle: the string angle was digit-crushing. At just 12 inches of draw the bow would surely fail to deliver, even though it pulled a respectable 47# at that draw.

Our 16", 130-grain arrows were crude to the extreme: roughly beltsanded, unround, unsmooth, untested hickory sticks suitable for kindling. But they sure did disappear into the sky at launch.

The best shot (out of six) from the tiny bow was measured at 250 yards. This with baaad arrows and a massive underdraw. It seemed impossible for this bow not to reach 300 yards and beyond with a full draw, a trained thumb-ring loose and finely crafted arrows.

It'd be interesting to make an ultra-short sinew-backed 50-pound wood bow and see what it can do. Maybe 24 inches nock-to-nock, with a 12-inch draw? Very short draws clearly have potential in the Flight game.

Tuukka

I thought it was established that horn bows were over rated???    >:D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on December 24, 2015, 08:43:09 pm
Tuukka  mentioned a bow made from a strip of goat horn about 2 feet long and sinew backed shot a crude arrow 250 yards.

We have thought of that,and i am contemplating it...a horn bow wood give you the longest draw,and handle a heavier weight...so how far do u think a 24" hornbow can draw? Haha  >:D

Here is his quote:

Last May we tested a tiny, old hornbow at our flight range. Less than two feet long, a thin slab of kinda Yumi-shaped goat horn backed with moose sinew. No wooden core. A mellow reflex and no siyahs apart from slight recurves bent into the horn ends. The maker of the bow had told that he had made his longest shot years ago with this bow. We were sceptical.

The full draw of the horn bow would've been about 16". But none of us could draw the bow that far fingerstyle: the string angle was digit-crushing. At just 12 inches of draw the bow would surely fail to deliver, even though it pulled a respectable 47# at that draw.

Our 16", 130-grain arrows were crude to the extreme: roughly beltsanded, unround, unsmooth, untested hickory sticks suitable for kindling. But they sure did disappear into the sky at launch.

The best shot (out of six) from the tiny bow was measured at 250 yards. This with baaad arrows and a massive underdraw. It seemed impossible for this bow not to reach 300 yards and beyond with a full draw, a trained thumb-ring loose and finely crafted arrows.

It'd be interesting to make an ultra-short sinew-backed 50-pound wood bow and see what it can do. Maybe 24 inches nock-to-nock, with a 12-inch draw? Very short draws clearly have potential in the Flight game.

Tuukka
 

I thought it was established that horn bows were over rated???    >:D

Sounds like we'll see... ??? ::)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PatM on December 24, 2015, 09:54:41 pm
Maybe  wood shorties are underachieved? It's interesting that other guys making plains style horn bows don't report impressive performance. Of course they aren't shooting arrows of 130 grains.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on December 24, 2015, 11:00:44 pm
Hey Pat............... you need to make to Marshall with us..... :) and show us your stuff.
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on December 25, 2015, 07:47:45 am
I'm sticking with what I know, self bows. You girls can have your "not-worth-the-effort" horn bows to dilly dally with!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on December 25, 2015, 09:22:48 am
I am with you on this Pearly!
we will see his Memorial Day weekend  @ Marshall  Mi.
How many arrows do you folks think  will be in a six inch  target @ 90yds  ?
Better yet whos will be closest to that black dot in the center ?
I may have to put something extra in the pot for this one, cant let a fellow be underpayed for this kind of work you know.
Se ya there!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PatM on December 25, 2015, 11:24:45 am
Hey Pat............... you need to make to Marshall with us..... :) and show us your stuff.
DBar

 That bow wasn't mine. I was more concerned that if peak performances were achieved with these bows you guys might hurt each other, even with the foam tips on the arrows.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on December 25, 2015, 03:07:07 pm
Hey Pat............... you need to make to Marshall with us..... :) and show us your stuff.
DBar

 That bow wasn't mine. I was more concerned that if peak performances were achieved with these bows you guys might hurt each other, even with the foam tips on the arrows.

thanks for the concern  ,but most of these boys grew up in the midwest and are used to a bit of pain cause  growing up in the Midwest  means walnut fights , pellet rifle fights and just plain ole getten rocked were a way of entertainment in farm country.

Now you city  folks and youngters from the electronics  age may want to take Pats advice and sit this dance out cause it's  gonna hurt
but you can still have fun shooting at The Bear Across the Pond with us and all the other fun stuff we do !
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: JW_Halverson on December 25, 2015, 03:09:05 pm
We grew up trying to sneak packs of Black Cat firecrackers in each other's back pockets.  It came to the point that none of us would turn our backs on someone with a lit punk!  The sound of a zippo lighter from behind me still elicits a jump!

Carry on, non-weenies!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Stringman on December 25, 2015, 04:05:15 pm
True story. Before I was considered bright enough to get a lightening bug excited, my brother talked me into a rock chucking contest. "We'll take turns throwing rocks at each other and see who gets the closest. I'll go first," he said.

As it were, not only did he lose on the first toss, he was aiming at my head - which I considered blatantly out of bounds! But my instant headache precluded me from making a point of it.

Does anyone want to establish a benchmark for us to "shoot" for?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on December 25, 2015, 05:52:52 pm
Don't  get me started on fireworks  or they will have to call in the national  guard  !!
or for that matter the kind of extra dumb it takes to play war games with dry ice in glass bottles
Not real sure how any of us survived or even escaped without well never mind  best we move on now
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: JW_Halverson on December 25, 2015, 06:05:14 pm
True story. Before I was considered bright enough to get a lightening bug excited, my brother talked me into a rock chucking contest. "We'll take turns throwing rocks at each other and see who gets the closest. I'll go first," he said.

As it were, not only did he lose on the first toss, he was aiming at my head - which I considered blatantly out of bounds! But my instant headache precluded me from making a point of it.

Does anyone want to establish a benchmark for us to "shoot" for?

'Splains a lot. Nuff said.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: paulsemp on December 26, 2015, 12:45:38 am
This is what I got so far. 23 1/2 overall dead standing, heat tempered and shoots of 3/16 oak dowel with 1 inch fletchings dead flat 20 yards. Thinking about putting some tendons on the back but I really want to stay with nothing but air on the back. Amazing how fast these little bows shoot. I talked about a big game playing war but I'm not quite sure I like to be hit with this thing O:)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on December 26, 2015, 12:51:36 am
Paul ... is the bow even an inch wide at fades? 3/16 dowels? Good grief, I am all thumbs gettin' feathers on 1/4" dowels!
Looks good!!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: paulsemp on December 26, 2015, 12:56:59 am
Three-quarter wide at the handle by about 5/16 thick. Did not even cut a notch in the arrow just shooting it with a pinch grip flat on the shaft
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on December 26, 2015, 12:59:43 am
And 2-strand string?   :o   :)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: paulsemp on December 26, 2015, 01:02:45 am
It's a six strand off a short bow. But I plan on making a sinew string..... I remember reading in the rules that the Bow must be of all natural materials I'm going for a string also
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on December 26, 2015, 08:00:31 am
I wont be playing war with mine, no way! My first attempt was only 11# and it would kill somebody under 5-8 yards.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on December 26, 2015, 08:02:02 am
And 2-strand string?   :o   :)

I made a 4 strand 457x. It was a pain, but worked just fine. Those 4 strands will hold at least 300#.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badly Bent on December 26, 2015, 09:26:00 am
Thats a wicked looking dart flinger Paul, I wouldn't want to be shot by that. I suggest we test them all on Clint. ;D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Bryce on December 27, 2015, 04:27:35 pm
This looks like fun
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Thunder on December 27, 2015, 06:09:23 pm
Not sure if I can make it to Marshall, but if I do, I've got to be a part of this!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: loefflerchuck on December 28, 2015, 12:49:44 am
That little 30" bighorn bow was 70# @ 18". I didn't use anything like a flight arrow. It was a 20" 11/32 cedar target arrow. Can't remember the weight with the heavy field point but it was of course way under 700 grains. Still could not get it to shoot much over 140 fps. You won't catch me telling tall tales. Still looking to make a impressive shooter, but it won't be out of expensive bighorns. I do however have some scraps that would make a perfect 25" bow that I would love to test to pieces.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on December 28, 2015, 08:36:43 am
Thanks for the honesty Chuck ;)

Thunder keep in mind this is Marshall, Michigan. I know there is a Marshall, MO shoot, I believe.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Aaron H on December 28, 2015, 08:40:38 am
Mojam is in Marshall,  MO
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: missilemaster on December 28, 2015, 08:40:53 am
Im going for a D/R profile just 2/5 of full size. snake skins, the whole deal :)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on December 28, 2015, 10:14:03 am
Im not a fan of the whole sinewing process,but its pretty quick n easy to do when ya only got 3 bundles to lay down...lol  :laugh:  sinew is soaking and im hoping to be able to sinew it later this eve. 2 bundles are limb length,and the other is bow length long  8) i think 2 layers is enough as the osage is uber thin


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Ive also blanked out a 24"er i intend to make a r/d static with sinew also
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Aaron H on December 28, 2015, 10:26:45 am
Too cool
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on December 28, 2015, 10:49:55 am
Looks like I need to get started.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: wizardgoat on December 28, 2015, 06:24:20 pm
That's gonna be a little rocket Chris
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badger on December 28, 2015, 06:34:40 pm
That little 30" bighorn bow was 70# @ 18". I didn't use anything like a flight arrow. It was a 20" 11/32 cedar target arrow. Can't remember the weight with the heavy field point but it was of course way under 700 grains. Still could not get it to shoot much over 140 fps. You won't catch me telling tall tales. Still looking to make a impressive shooter, but it won't be out of expensive bighorns. I do however have some scraps that would make a perfect 25" bow that I would love to test to pieces.


  Drop the weight f that arrow to about 150 grains and it will g much faster than 140 fps I guarantee.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on December 28, 2015, 06:51:25 pm
Sinews on this one!!!  :P

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Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Bryce on December 28, 2015, 07:31:50 pm
Eff it! I'm getting in on this! I'm gonna start mine tonight! Who should I send it to, so they can shoot it at Marshall?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Thunder on December 28, 2015, 08:50:17 pm
Thanks for the honesty Chuck ;)

Thunder keep in mind this is Marshall, Michigan. I know there is a Marshall, MO shoot, I believe.
Pearl Drums, thanks for pointing it out, I didn't see that.
But, you never know, I have been known to get around. :o
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on December 29, 2015, 08:01:20 am
We would gladly have you! Best to bring warm clothes up here in late May.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on December 29, 2015, 08:34:02 am
Eff it! I'm getting in on this! I'm gonna start mine tonight! Who should I send it to, so they can shoot it at Marshall?

Sweet!!! U could bring it to the classic if its done by then and if your gonna make it,and give it to one of us who will also be at marshall(clint,bill,scott,guy,me or whoever else)...heck if i have one of mine done ill bring mine down to tennersee n we can go plink some arras with em
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Bryce on December 29, 2015, 12:02:14 pm
Eff it! I'm getting in on this! I'm gonna start mine tonight! Who should I send it to, so they can shoot it at Marshall?

Sweet!!! U could bring it to the classic if its done by then and if your gonna make it,and give it to one of us who will also be at marshall(clint,bill,scott,guy,me or whoever else)...heck if i have one of mine done ill bring mine down to tennersee n we can go plink some arras with em


Sounds like a plan
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badger on December 29, 2015, 12:34:08 pm
  What are the rules for the contest? Is it going to be a flite shoot? It looks like it may turn into a fun match. You all might want to start talking arrows.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Bryce on December 29, 2015, 01:02:15 pm
  What are the rules for the contest? Is it going to be a flite shoot? It looks like it may turn into a fun match. You all might want to start talking arrows.

I would like to know as well. Is there a length limit? 21"?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on December 29, 2015, 01:15:36 pm
One rule...natural materials bow totaling no longer than 24" long...

No flight shooting per say,but im sure we'll be launching them across the pond at a bear target..dont know how far that is..80-90 yards?  Not sure if theres an area or field there on the clubs property thats big enough to flight shoot...altho the adjoining properties have some big enough fields...

What wood you setup for arrows steve? This is out of my realm of experience...i was thinking small 2" long fletching,and use a 2 fletch instead of the 3...n then experimenting with a couple diff diameter shafts untill i found ones that flew best...any recommendations there? Any front or rear end barrels,both,or just parallel shafts? Id rather them be as light as possible,but still maintain semi decent flight...im not taking it to serious..jus wanna be in the ballpark,and not looking to smash flight records if ya know what i mean. ;)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on December 29, 2015, 04:23:16 pm
Do micro bows count? This little guy is only 9" drawing about 15 pounds at 4" draw. It's black licust and the last ring of sapwood before the heart. I know the tiller isn't perfect but I ran out of wood. I wonder if the larger bamboo skewers would work for you. That's what a buddy and I use for our mini bows and they usually work pretty well. Though the largest mini now we've built are about 18". The skewers were about right for it but too stiff for the tiny bows. We've chronographed mini bows like the one pictures up to about 115 fps or so.

Kyle
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on December 29, 2015, 05:38:41 pm
One rule...natural materials bow totaling no longer than 24" long...

No flight shooting per say,but im sure we'll be launching them across the pond at a bear target..dont know how far that is..80-90 yards?  Not sure if theres an area or field there on the clubs property thats big enough to flight shoot...altho the adjoining properties have some big enough fields...

What wood you setup for arrows steve? This is out of my realm of experience...i was thinking small 2" long fletching,and use a 2 fletch instead of the 3...n then experimenting with a couple diff diameter shafts untill i found ones that flew best...any recommendations there? Any front or rear end barrels,both,or just parallel shafts? Id rather them be as light as possible,but still maintain semi decent flight...im not taking it to serious..jus wanna be in the ballpark,and not looking to smash flight records if ya know what i mean. ;)

Chris  what draw length  and weight  are you thinking you are shooting for we will need to know to figure your arrows out but I would figure you may want to barrel them to get the weight of the shaft down but keep the spine up to your draw weight
Steve may come back with some suggestions but I am sure we will need your numbers to get you close

I have a ton of work to do before I can even make a run at this but sure hope to get in on it
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badger on December 29, 2015, 06:18:44 pm
   The arrows would be best using the densest material possible. The light weight of the arrows will not carry much fletching, I would make the fletch no more than 1/2" long and less than 1/4" high. I wouldn't go through a lot of trouble making arrows though., The bamboo skewers or shish ka bob skewer might work pretty good. A little weight up front will make up for using a less dense wood somewhat.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on December 29, 2015, 06:25:18 pm
Chris what material shafting are you wanting to try
Maybe we can get Pat to cut us some 1/4 inch hill cain!

The CWBS folks that come go shoot a feild  on Saturday  if you want we can ask them about tagging along
or maybe  we can ask the Eaton proving  ground  to let us use some space

but really  since Clint wants to catch arrows we can shoot off the Dam and see how far up the lake he gets in a row boat before our arrows won't  reach him LOL

no matter what we will be having a blast
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: paulsemp on December 29, 2015, 06:27:41 pm
 man all this Marshall talk is getting me excited. I will be there early as usual getting the best camping spot >:D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on December 30, 2015, 12:51:53 pm
Thatll work tool kyle...anything under 24" total is fair game

Thanks for the advice n help steve n guy...im sure ill figure it out ;)

You n me both pauly!!!! ;)

I got my 2nd one floor tillered and ready to heat shape.  This ones getting statics  >:D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Aaron H on December 30, 2015, 01:05:09 pm
We need pictures Chris
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Bryce on December 30, 2015, 06:46:27 pm
Found this piece of Osage in the brush pile.


(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p696/Bryce_Ott/BE8BC28B-B901-4F80-9B9F-29F1E487288F_zpsz5naomxs.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/Bryce_Ott/media/BE8BC28B-B901-4F80-9B9F-29F1E487288F_zpsz5naomxs.jpg.html)

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p696/Bryce_Ott/DFCBC14B-93FC-494F-A535-62FA0963CC86_zpsbohn77lm.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/Bryce_Ott/media/DFCBC14B-93FC-494F-A535-62FA0963CC86_zpsbohn77lm.jpg.html)

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p696/Bryce_Ott/B368F115-0B58-4C82-94A1-C6BB94B7FF98_zpsbgqy4vuw.jpg) (http://s1346.photobucket.com/user/Bryce_Ott/media/B368F115-0B58-4C82-94A1-C6BB94B7FF98_zpsbgqy4vuw.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on December 30, 2015, 06:53:23 pm
Hummmmm ...... lookn good Bryce
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on December 31, 2015, 09:05:23 am
My shop door is locked. It's all hush-hush!


I've been collaborating with a very prominent flight shooter :).  I'd be afraid boys, very afraid.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: paulsemp on December 31, 2015, 09:13:33 am
The only thing I find frightening is the list of excuses you're going to come up with for your sub par performance
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on December 31, 2015, 09:23:03 am
 I'll have no excuses muchacho', only fun and 2 dozen arrows!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on December 31, 2015, 02:30:48 pm
I'm sure mine will achieve no high performance attributes. But maybe will acquit ourselves ok on the range.   ;)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Stringman on December 31, 2015, 04:41:50 pm
I'm having trouble with accuracy, but pleased with the power these little guys possess!

(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s670/cotton7611/B269A8F7-59AE-4B31-A382-0AA892170537_zps5zrnti1a.jpg) (http://s1311.photobucket.com/user/cotton7611/media/B269A8F7-59AE-4B31-A382-0AA892170537_zps5zrnti1a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on December 31, 2015, 05:15:43 pm
Very NICE Stringman!  Can we get a Full Draw Pic???  ...maybe some stats and dimensions?  :)

OneBow
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on December 31, 2015, 05:50:02 pm
Quote from:  :-\ :-\ :-\=topic=55467.msg755024#msg755024 date=1451593591
Very NICE Stringman!  Can we get a Full Draw Pic???  ...maybe some stats and dimensions?  :)

OneBow

Ditto.... :-\ ??? ???
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on December 31, 2015, 06:13:27 pm
Looks good
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Stringman on January 01, 2016, 01:25:07 am
So far it's 50#@12" but I might try making it a little more shootable.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Aaron H on January 01, 2016, 09:41:51 am
Looks great Scott
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 01, 2016, 09:59:31 am
Whew! That's a stout one Scott. I bet it shoots forever, but I think hitting a target will score more points :)

Looks cool! Maybe a prod in its afterlife?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: lebhuntfish on January 02, 2016, 03:11:56 am
Looks like a lot of fun guy's!  I've made a couple of tiny bows. Believe it or not, I made one from bradford pear that was 12 inches long and pulled 20+ lbs at 7 inches of draw. I shot the fire out of it. Then I decided to see where the breaking point was and it turned out to be at 9.5 inches. But I pulled it that far at least a dozen times. I may have a pic somewhere, if I find it I'll post it.
Patrick
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Selfbowman on January 02, 2016, 08:02:22 am
Well Fellers,

To all those who attend the Marshall shoot on memorial day weekend(you know who who are)

Theres only one rule...rest is all you!!!

make any bow of any natural materials no longer than 24" total length...

go shoot the course!!!!

Game on!!!!

heres one im currently working on so far ...osage of course  >:D

19.5" ntn ...21" total....24@10" draw  >:D

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/Mobile%20Uploads/20151223_141340_resized.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151223_141340_resized.jpg.html)

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/Mobile%20Uploads/20151223_135135_resized.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151223_135135_resized.jpg.html)

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/Mobile%20Uploads/20151223_141759_resized.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151223_141759_resized.jpg.html)

right after i unbraced it

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/Mobile%20Uploads/20151223_142350_resized.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151223_142350_resized.jpg.html)


I also say we make soft blunt tipped arrows with flu flu feathers on em and play dodge ball!!!  >:D  :laugh:

Now lets see who else is in...show me the goods boys!!! i know some of you have started as well

Ok where is this at? If not to far I am in. Like to see all you nuts anyway . Arvin
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 02, 2016, 08:02:44 am
We may have a surprise entry coming in. Bub, did you hear the same thing?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 02, 2016, 08:03:45 am
You are flying up Arvy?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on January 02, 2016, 09:07:44 am
@Arvin...its up in marshall michigan....which aint to far from Texas so come on up  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on January 02, 2016, 02:04:23 pm
We may have a surprise entry coming in. Bub, did you hear the same thing?


Sure did pearlie, I'm planning my mini bow right now
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: paulsemp on January 02, 2016, 03:14:18 pm
Alright Bub 8)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 02, 2016, 03:14:33 pm
I'm planning my mini bow right now

Not that added incentive was needed, but this certainly makes Marshall Rendezvous even more of a "can't miss" event for me!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on January 03, 2016, 04:00:05 pm
Glad to hear that you are planning to come again Mike!
I know its a fair piece for ya to come so we must be doing something right.
Get your mini ready it wont take up much  room at least LOL
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 03, 2016, 05:37:52 pm
OK Guys.............Here's a "little" peak  ::)
Got a "little" more work to do on it.   ;D



Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 03, 2016, 05:39:08 pm
And a few more
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 03, 2016, 05:44:28 pm
Thought about doing a bendy handle, but I wanted to keep the "hand shock" down.  ;D ;)

I think the key to accuracy is the arrows.....man it's tough working on these tiny things with old Arthur in your fingers.

Till next time,
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 03, 2016, 06:04:14 pm
A stiff-handled one ... good golly miss molly! That tiny sucka is amazing.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badly Bent on January 03, 2016, 06:28:49 pm
Good looking little bow there Bill.  I like your design, I bet an arrow from that one would bruise old Clint pretty good. :D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 03, 2016, 06:48:17 pm
Good looking little bow there Bill.  I like your design, I bet an arrow from that one would bruise old Clint pretty good. :D

Thanks Greg,
I shot a couple of first attempt arrows and with Clint losing so much weight I might get a pass through.  :o ::)   I'm with ya...NO way I'm shooting this thing at a person.  It's unreal how fast it is.  Now I've got to work on some arrows, I think the right arrow will be the ticket, but this thing is hard to shoot!  :-[
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on January 03, 2016, 06:57:43 pm
Looks good Dbar.  I'm going to work on my tiny bow tomorrow.

From the sounds of it I don't think I'll have anything to worry about.  You guys couldn't hit me standing still.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: JacksonCash on January 04, 2016, 09:01:06 am
Like I needed another project... *sigh*
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on January 04, 2016, 09:08:30 am
I like it bill...whats the stas on that lil puppy? One layer of sinew as well?

Clint I wouldn't worry about any of those guys hitting ya either...me on the other hand  >:D.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on January 04, 2016, 09:24:45 am
Holy Shizzles!  With the busy hunting season, I just now noticed this post.  I better get busy...  I'm in!

I've made tiny bows as gifts for newborns, and such.  They are very fast and I would never consider being on the receiving end of one of them.  Made one for James Parker's young-un that would easily pass thru a cardboard box with bamboo skewers.  This is gonna be fun!  Good idea, Hawkster!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Stixnstones on January 04, 2016, 09:25:25 am
I'm in!!! what day you's guy's plan on shootin? I'll b there Thursday afternoon til Saturday afternoon.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on January 04, 2016, 08:11:08 pm
Sweet bow Bill !
Hope I can get things under control here  so I can make something to play with, sure don't want to be  left out!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 04, 2016, 08:31:00 pm
Thanks Guy!  I'm sure one of the Chris's will have three or four bows built before Marshall you could probably shoot if things don't get under control..... :) ;).
Be good to see you again....

Hey Bad Chris....Specs Hummmmm well......it's not a perfect tiller
Osage with horn tip overlays
Sinew - not much, very thin layer.
Deflex through the fades with about 4" of reflex at the tips.
6.25" brace height
4" handle
1.5" fades
1.75" wide at the fades, straight taper to .375 at the tips.(not Blackhawk tips)
60# @ 28"
64.5" ntn

Of course this is all x 36.3636%  >:D

And the arrow information will have to wait a while...... :-\
Till next time,
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on January 04, 2016, 09:47:59 pm
Your math looks a little fuzzy to me Bill  ;D

Glad to see you are joining the party Matt. 

I roughed out a few more bows today out of some really old osage and some ocean spray.  I got my first bow thinned to roughly 1/4" thick and ready for sinew.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on January 06, 2016, 10:01:47 pm
I dug threw the scrap bin and found a belly cut of maple from a pyramid bow a little under 1/4" thick, cut it down 24" ttt one inch wide middle ten and taper to half inch tips. Gonna recurve the tips some and get ready to sinew
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on January 07, 2016, 12:11:53 am
How many 24" bows can you fit into a carry on bag?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on January 07, 2016, 12:18:14 am
Maybe two?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on January 07, 2016, 07:50:12 am
Sweet bub...man this things turning into quite the crowd of characters  :P were gonna be a small army armed with deadly mini bows   :laugh:  :laugh:
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on January 08, 2016, 01:00:22 am
I just finished putting 2 courses of sinew on my bow.  I'll post a picture tomorrow morning. 
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on January 08, 2016, 10:37:21 am
(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv22/Outlawstaves/20160108_101602_zpsipt8bjfw.jpg) (http://s666.photobucket.com/user/Outlawstaves/media/20160108_101602_zpsipt8bjfw.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Urufu_Shinjiro on January 08, 2016, 10:59:02 am
Lol, I'm just picturing folks at the meet that aren't on this forum showing up and seeing all these yahoos running around with tiny bows like madmen, lol.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on January 08, 2016, 11:17:09 am
That's looking great Clint
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 08, 2016, 11:18:33 am
Lol, I'm just picturing folks at the meet that aren't on this forum showing up and seeing all these yahoos running around with tiny bows like madmen, lol.

My thoughts as well, good times indeed!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on January 08, 2016, 11:21:51 am
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/Mobile%20Uploads/20160107_200527_zpsqi3am76b.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160107_200527_zpsqi3am76b.jpg.html)
I managed to get mine to shape and get one tip bent
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on January 08, 2016, 05:19:38 pm
Still not sure which if any of the Mini-Bow venues I might get to attend this year.  I've had beau-coup changes in my schedule of late that are making it pretty hard to plan on much of anything.  ...but just-in-case we manage to get to on of the Venues hosting a chapter of the Mini Bow Challenge,  ;) :o ::) Patrick (lebhuntfish) and I got together the other night to see if we could do anything with this MiniBow idea. 

I had a piece of kinda narrow bamboo and Patrick had a beautiful piece of OLD seasoned Osage with really tight rings, but it was in his refuse pile because it didn't look like it had a bow in it.  We decided to try for a pair of Boo backed Osage minibows.  The Osage was odd shaped, but we figured we could get 25-30 inches of quarter sawn Osage out of the middle of the old stave.  We trimmed the piece out so that the grain stands on edge like so - ||||||||||||| and cut out 3/8ths to half inch thick slats for the bellies of our mini bows.

Then we built a super short caul that has two curved sides to it.  The idea is to glue up both minibows and then press them back to back into the caul on opposing sides.  Patrick heat treated the SNOT out of the belly sides of the Osage slats before we glued them up.

Additionally we had another slat of the Quartersawn osage that it seemed like a shame to waste, and I had a piece of 1/8 inch straight grained Hickory Quartersawn, so we glued it up as well.  We took turns snapping pix of our progress, so I'll have to get Patrick to post some of our 'Making Of' pix to get you a more full story.  Here's a few of the ones I took.

If neither of us can get to Marshall or the Classic, we'll just have to shoot them at MOJAM - which we'll certainly be attending!

OneBow
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on January 08, 2016, 05:21:27 pm
more pix...
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on January 08, 2016, 07:15:27 pm
Awesome stuff eric n patrick!!!! Nice to see some laminate minis...i might have to try that version as well...these lil things are fun to work on thats for sure.

Mini bows are sweeping the bowyers nation...lol  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badly Bent on January 08, 2016, 08:09:47 pm
I really dig your dually caul guys, thats thinking outside the box.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: lebhuntfish on January 08, 2016, 10:53:14 pm
It's been a lot of fun working on these little shorties! I've really enjoyed the shop time wit Eric as well. I've been kinda in a bow making slump and now I'm excited about a project again. Here is a few pictures I have of our shop time!

(http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w668/lebhuntfish1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/20160101_172940_zpsgcw95cmh.jpg) (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/lebhuntfish1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/20160101_172940_zpsgcw95cmh.jpg.html)

(http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w668/lebhuntfish1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/20160107_164827_zpsxktdvmgr.jpg) (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/lebhuntfish1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/20160107_164827_zpsxktdvmgr.jpg.html)

(http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w668/lebhuntfish1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/20160107_192013_zpstuuiqk6f.jpg) (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/lebhuntfish1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/20160107_192013_zpstuuiqk6f.jpg.html)

(http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w668/lebhuntfish1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/20160107_212652_zpstvs864sl.jpg) (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/lebhuntfish1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-01/20160107_212652_zpstvs864sl.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: DC on January 09, 2016, 12:48:49 pm
If these minis are over 40# could they be used for hunting or is there just not enough draw length to build grunt?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badger on January 09, 2016, 01:19:57 pm
If these minis are over 40# could they be used for hunting or is there just not enough draw length to build grunt?

  At 12" draw they would not store enough energy for hunting but with light enough arrows could get some good cast.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on January 09, 2016, 01:44:16 pm
And not very accurate for hunting
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: lebhuntfish on January 09, 2016, 02:25:48 pm
I be hunting wabits!  >:D

Patrick
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 09, 2016, 03:39:01 pm
And not very accurate for hunting

If we hit ANYWHERE on Marshall's 3d turkey, will call it excellent!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badger on January 09, 2016, 05:00:07 pm
  If I had to bet I would bet no one hits that turkey at 90 yards, I would do 6 shots then move it up 20 yards, 6 more shots then move it up until someone connects.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: stuckinthemud on January 09, 2016, 05:02:23 pm
If these minis are over 40# could they be used for hunting or is there just not enough draw length to build grunt?

  At 12" draw they would not store enough energy for hunting but with light enough arrows could get some good cast.

Sorry, am a bit confused, I know crossbows have a huge amount more poundage but they operate off a short draw?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: ajooter on January 09, 2016, 05:49:08 pm
If somebody makes a 24" 100# foot bow that will probably be the case but the last time somebody attempted making a 100# selfbow...which Steve did!  :D...I think the server for the site almost melted due to the overloaded discussions.  I do enjoy watching people shoot bows with their feet though.  Watching some of Howard hills exploits makes me want to try it one of these days.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on January 09, 2016, 08:13:49 pm
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/Mobile%20Uploads/20160109_164940_zpsp4o2nvlz.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160109_164940_zpsp4o2nvlz.jpg.html)
Got another started
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badger on January 09, 2016, 08:16:45 pm
If these minis are over 40# could they be used for hunting or is there just not enough draw length to build grunt?

  At 12" draw they would not store enough energy for hunting but with light enough arrows could get some good cast.

Sorry, am a bit confused, I know crossbows have a huge amount more poundage but they operate off a short draw?

 A 100# crossbow has less power than a 50# longbow.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: paulsemp on January 09, 2016, 10:24:53 pm
Badly bent and i were stomping though the woods today and when we got back to the car I grabbed my mini and let one go. We paced it out to 100 yards... whether i hit the bear or not I know im making it over the lake >:D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 09, 2016, 10:33:07 pm
First class, Paul!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on January 10, 2016, 12:20:03 am
Nice bow Paul.  I'm getting closer to having one that shoots.  I steamed the tips on this one tonight.

(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv22/Outlawstaves/20160109_233835_zps7mqnaz15.jpg) (http://s666.photobucket.com/user/Outlawstaves/media/20160109_233835_zps7mqnaz15.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on January 10, 2016, 08:59:30 am
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/Mobile%20Uploads/20160109_164940_zpsp4o2nvlz.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160109_164940_zpsp4o2nvlz.jpg.html)
Got another started

look at the hooks on that baby !
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 10, 2016, 09:21:57 am
You guys are so far behind ya' cant even see my tail lights anymore.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on January 10, 2016, 10:03:28 am
Cool stuff guys....thanks for sharing!!! ;)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 10, 2016, 12:37:09 pm
Look'n good guys............... :)
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on January 10, 2016, 03:39:49 pm
 :D  8)

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/Mobile%20Uploads/20160110_144621_resized.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160110_144621_resized.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 10, 2016, 03:50:40 pm
@ bubby and Chris......
What is the radius of the bends???
Remember....We do have to be accurate with these things....but its fun isn't it.. ;D ;)
I'm zeroing in on some arrows......it's going to take me until Marshall to learn to shoot these mini bows.
Chris, I'm glad you got this post started early... :)
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on January 10, 2016, 04:06:45 pm
Bill mine was from a 2 1/2" circle (bottom of a wd40 can...haha)

Heres the first one I sinewed!!! Been starting to test the bend and its gained a good bit of weight...bet i get 12" of draw out of a 19.5" ntn stick.

(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/Mobile%20Uploads/20160110_153426_resized.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160110_153426_resized.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on January 10, 2016, 04:47:37 pm
Mine was from a tomato paste can the little one
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on January 10, 2016, 04:49:45 pm
Dbar are you saying staticd aren't accurate 😈
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on January 10, 2016, 05:18:39 pm
It's  killing me not to be able to get started on this , but keep on folks I will be right behind you !
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 10, 2016, 06:32:52 pm
quote author=bubby link=topic=55467.msg756512#msg756512 date=1452456033]
Dbar are you saying staticd aren't accurate 😈
[/quote]
Nope........I'm just saying you'd better get maken arrows and shoot'n instead of mak'n bows...  ;D  ;D  These suckers are hard to shoot....
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on January 10, 2016, 07:04:49 pm
That's a fact dbar, but i gotta get one built before i shoot it
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 10, 2016, 07:24:50 pm
That's a fact dbar, but i gotta get one built before i shoot it

 :) ;)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 11, 2016, 07:33:06 am
I fired some arrows out of mine yesterday. They had 125 grain tips and made from boo, so way too heavy at 200 plus grains. But it still sent them down range with some serious thump. I need to lessen the weight. I get 18# at about 7". Id like that at 11".
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 11, 2016, 08:00:49 am
atta man! For some reason I couldn't see the pics.  ??
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 11, 2016, 08:45:32 am
I didn't put any up Mikey. 
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on January 11, 2016, 10:26:35 am
atta man! For some reason I couldn't see the pics.  ??

I think Pearly is waiting on the US Patent and Trademark Office to complete the prior art and citations research before he publishes any pics of his device.  Can't be too careful with game changing innovations and intellectual property rights in the field of MiniBowyery!!!   :o ::) ;D

OneBow
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Urufu_Shinjiro on January 11, 2016, 11:09:13 am
We need a thread of the month contest, lol.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 11, 2016, 11:11:16 am
All I will say is 1.0" long statics can be bent in easily with no damage.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on January 11, 2016, 09:48:51 pm
Come on Pearly tease us a little bit!
Show us your curves.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 12, 2016, 07:28:26 am
Little turd really spits an arrow. I was shooting 15 yards in my basement and couldn't follow the arrow very easily with my eyes. I scaled it 23 @ 10".
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on January 12, 2016, 08:31:29 am
Sweet pearls looks good
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badger on January 12, 2016, 08:44:38 am
  Good job on that bow Pearly! When judging the speed of scaled down bows instead of shooting them say at 10 grains per pound you would shoot them at 10 grains per pound of stored energy. If you shot that little bow with about a 75 grain arrow it would probably go about as fast as your big bows.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 12, 2016, 08:55:41 am
I didn't weigh my arrows Steve, I will tonite. The tip weight is 30 grains and the shaft is 1/4 poplar, I nock tapered them to create more FOC. They look pretty slick and I'm quite sure its working for me based on arrow flight.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on January 12, 2016, 03:03:53 pm
That looks like a mean little bow Pearly!  Love the hooks...

OneBow
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Thunder on January 12, 2016, 05:07:23 pm
Nice mini bow Pearl Drums!

Thunder  8)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on January 12, 2016, 05:19:08 pm
Nice job Pearly!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: IdahoMatt on January 12, 2016, 05:42:33 pm
That thing looks pretty rad Chris
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 12, 2016, 06:01:15 pm
  Good job on that bow Pearly! When judging the speed of scaled down bows instead of shooting them say at 10 grains per pound you would shoot them at 10 grains per pound of stored energy. If you shot that little bow with about a 75 grain arrow it would probably go about as fast as your big bows.
I'm with ya Steve... ;)
I've got about a 18 arrows made and they all weight between 65 and 85 grains..  Been shooting them from my bow that is about 22# at 10"  and have found out that the tip weight means as much with these mini's as it does with full sizes bows.....Most are shooting weak spine, using boo skewers at 11" long. I'm needing to weak'n the point weight which is about 40 grains now.
By the way Chris nice little mini bow.....I kind'a like static's too... :) ;)
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 12, 2016, 06:05:23 pm
Hey Guys...
I'm having a little trouble with my hunting arrows....can't seam to come up with a good point.
What would you go with, a mini stone point or a mini trade point?  I've seen some mighty fine mini stone points on here in the past... :) :)
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on January 12, 2016, 06:35:29 pm
Hey Guys...
I'm having a little trouble with my hunting arrows....can't seam to come up with a good point.
What would you go with, a mini stone point or a mini trade point?  I've seen some mighty fine mini stone points on here in the past... :) :)
DBar

I'm thinking to try the mini-trade points made out of carpet knife blades.  Can easily get two per disposable blade, and old dulled ones would work just fine...  I saw a demo online that looked a bit cheesy, ...but it could work I expect.

OneBow
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 12, 2016, 07:37:22 pm
Thanks for the info Onebow.............
Chris,
I like the boo skewers for their smaller diameter and spine.  but like the full size ones, I have gone through the whole pack and only found 30 or 35 worthy of arrows.  Like I've always said... accuracy is with the arrows.. :) ;)  I've been shooting only cane/boo for two years now (with the big bows) and the other day I went back and shot some aluminum and .....WOW....unbelievable groups.. :)
Maybe I'm not as good as a primitive arrow maker as I think.... :-\ :) ;)
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on January 12, 2016, 08:27:29 pm
Bill, can't you find any 2 penny duplex nails?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 12, 2016, 08:35:00 pm
Bill, can't you find any 2 penny duplex nails?
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: That's an idea ...it's got me thinkn.... :)
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 12, 2016, 09:05:07 pm
I'm thinking to try the mini-trade points made out of carpet knife blades.  Can easily get two per disposable blade, and old dulled ones would work just fine...  I saw a demo online that looked a bit cheesy, ...but it could work I expect.

Kewl idea!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on January 12, 2016, 09:40:53 pm
Im asking for trouble with this one!!!  >:D  8)  almost ready for some sinew...im def pushing the limits on this one even with sinew imho  ::)


(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/Mobile%20Uploads/20160112_211347_resized.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160112_211347_resized.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 12, 2016, 09:46:25 pm
But ya wouldn't be satisfied unless pushing those limits!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 12, 2016, 09:52:39 pm
Im asking for trouble with this one!!!  >:D  8)  almost ready for some sinew...im def pushing the limits on this one even with sinew imho  ::)


(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/Mobile%20Uploads/20160112_211347_resized.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160112_211347_resized.jpg.html)
WOW... :o Would like to see you just string that one in person.... :) ;)....and then watch you shoot it....bet it's not easy.  But it sure is cool.

DBar

Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on January 12, 2016, 09:54:14 pm
Quote from: osage outlaw link=topic=55467.msg756917#msg756917 date=145d2641897
Bill, can't you find any 2 penny duplex nails?
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: That's an idea ...it's got me thinkn.... :)
DBar



I thibk i will try 1/4" dowels or small boo with .22 casings
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 12, 2016, 10:08:11 pm
Bubby,
Boo and 22 casings sounds real good for blunts....
Using boo (skewers), I found some 3/16" OD brass tubing at Hobby Lobby and added a 1/4" long piece of 16 penny nail, fits perfect into the end, sharpened for field points.  Seems to work well...can change the weight pretty easy by grinding the nail point down......
My are sticking into a "Block target" about an inch and a half at 20 ft..... :)
DBar ,
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Aaron H on January 13, 2016, 07:07:11 am
Wow, that's awesome Chris
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: stuckinthemud on January 13, 2016, 07:11:16 am
sharpen the arrow like a pencil and let in a little triangle of plate antler or horn into the tip to re-enforce it - leave it proud as a hunting tip if you prefer - weighs pretty much nothing - bout the same as the material you saw out for the slot it sits in.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on January 13, 2016, 09:50:51 am
You guys certainly are raising the bar!  Nice mini's!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Urufu_Shinjiro on January 13, 2016, 10:43:10 am
Wow Chris, I sure hope that comes out, it's beautiful!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on January 13, 2016, 10:55:05 am
Chris - that looks like something Cupid would carry!  You should paint/stain it Pink and Red!!!

OneBow
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: simson on January 13, 2016, 11:21:32 am
Im asking for trouble with this one!!!  >:D  8)  almost ready for some sinew...im def pushing the limits on this one even with sinew imho  ::)


(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/Mobile%20Uploads/20160112_211347_resized.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160112_211347_resized.jpg.html)

can't wait to see the f/d pic ....
GOOD LUCK!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 13, 2016, 07:09:14 pm
Here's an archers dozen I've got shooting from the mini bow....
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on January 13, 2016, 07:17:59 pm
Dang Bill.  You've been busy.  Nice work.  Those arrows look great.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 13, 2016, 07:20:05 pm
Thanks buddy!
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Thunder on January 13, 2016, 07:31:31 pm
Nice work Bill!

Thunder
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on January 13, 2016, 08:26:24 pm
Awesome Bill!!!!  :)   i wonder how many off those purty lil arras are gonna be lost in the stink cabbage swamp cemetary!!! Lol  :laugh:  :laugh:  hopefully none eh?  ;)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on January 13, 2016, 08:30:22 pm
That's a good point BH.  I might buy some bright orange or pink feathers so they are easier to find. 
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 13, 2016, 08:32:53 pm
Thanks Thunder..

Awesome Bill!!!!  :)   i wonder how many off those purty lil arras are gonna be lost in the stink cabbage swamp cemetary!!! Lol  :laugh:  :laugh:  hopefully none eh?  ;)

 ;D ;D ;D That's why I made so many...... ;D ;D ;D ;)
DBar

Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on January 13, 2016, 08:36:58 pm
I can't wait to see Bubby wading knee deep in the skunk cabbage and mosquito swamps. 
I think on the west coast skunk cabbage has a totally different meaning(http://fun.resplace.net/Emoticons/Smoking/SmokingAJoint.gif.pagespeed.ce.WLL_lvrFFh.gif)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on January 13, 2016, 09:50:44 pm
I'm sure I'll provide many laughs for y'all Clint, especially when dbar sees my crappy arrows😄
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badly Bent on January 13, 2016, 10:14:24 pm
Hokey Smolkes Bill that one heck a archery set buddy. I better get started on my mini bow soon, I can see now that the bar has been set pretty high.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 14, 2016, 07:53:34 am
I'd like to see you have outdone yourself big guy, but that's your "norm"! Excellent as usual.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on January 14, 2016, 08:20:10 am
Saweeeeeeeeeeeeet!  Bill, what a nice set there.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 14, 2016, 09:43:28 am
Can't think of anything to add, Bill. Gonna be kewl to see those arras fly!

And, imo, no amount of jazzy fletchings will increase odds of finding ammo in that dang swamp!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: stuckinthemud on January 14, 2016, 09:48:17 am
Tie a fishing line to 'em >:D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on January 14, 2016, 10:23:26 am
Between us we're going to have enough of these little buggerz to arm an entire company of Lilliputian archers!

OneBow
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PNewton on January 14, 2016, 12:25:22 pm
Sweet looking setup Bill. I'm liking this thread.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: lebhuntfish on January 14, 2016, 01:58:27 pm
Between us we're going to have enough of these little buggerz to arm an entire company of Lilliputian archers!

OneBow


 >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on January 17, 2016, 04:06:28 pm
Well, here is a sneak preview of what I'm working on.  It's far from being a bow. 
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 17, 2016, 04:39:58 pm
All I can say.................... is holy $hiT, Matt
That's awesome ..............
Cant wait... gota see more..... :)
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: DC on January 17, 2016, 05:03:38 pm
Well, here is a sneak preview of what I'm working on.  It's far from being a bow.

A clamp holder? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 17, 2016, 05:54:22 pm
I don't even have that many clamps..... :-[ :-[ :-[    :)
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on January 17, 2016, 06:33:50 pm
Cheater    ;D

I'm making slow progress on a couple bows in between some other projects.  Got tip overlays on them but still need to shape them. 
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badger on January 17, 2016, 07:10:30 pm
 This reminds me of the sport of flight shooting 60 years ago!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on January 17, 2016, 10:13:53 pm
I have a couple bows I'm working on, a little horn bow and a selfbow from a scrap of boo, pearl did put the idea in my head to do a boo backed boo (http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/Mobile%20Uploads/20160111_153628_zpsivnaldix.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160111_153628_zpsivnaldix.jpg.html)
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/Mobile%20Uploads/20160111_153734_zpsao8j8tke.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160111_153734_zpsao8j8tke.jpg.html)
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/Mobile%20Uploads/20160113_141504_zps1lccpyar.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160113_141504_zps1lccpyar.jpg.html)
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/Mobile%20Uploads/20160112_145552_zps9kn2gokc.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160112_145552_zps9kn2gokc.jpg.html)
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/Mobile%20Uploads/20160112_145523_zpsvolw4kfd.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160112_145523_zpsvolw4kfd.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 18, 2016, 12:48:00 am
Am learning that this is TOUGH!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on January 18, 2016, 01:01:58 am
Am learning that this is TOUGH





If it was easy anyone could do it😈
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on January 18, 2016, 08:37:36 am
Unclamping her tonight after work.  Then I need to figure out a handle riser.  Kinda making this one up as I go along.  I'm thinking that I better get a backup bow started, as well.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on January 18, 2016, 08:48:53 am
Looking good matt n bub!!! ;)  yes matt a backup plans a good idea with that first ya got going
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on January 18, 2016, 09:23:22 am
Here's a pic of version number 1.  Still working on a couple more.  We're at 27.36 pounds @10.5 inches... 8)

OneBow
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on January 18, 2016, 06:08:59 pm
Looking good onebow !
Just haul it on back another 1/2 inch

Bubby
You folks with the horn are gonna make this a tuff contest for us selfbow nuts
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on January 18, 2016, 06:27:59 pm
Not necessarily Guy
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badly Bent on January 18, 2016, 07:59:21 pm
OK, Matt either your mini bow design is insane or you are. ;D
Bub, there ain't no buffalo in MI.  ;)
Eric, your bow gives me some hope as to something simple enough that I may be able to compete with until I read how much draw weight you got out of it and the perfect tiller you achieved. :)
All you guys are showing some serious skill on these minis.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Blackcoyote on January 19, 2016, 08:54:06 am
Bub, there ain't no buffalo in MI.  ;)

I got a whole herd just down the road from my house, ask pearlie....   you just have to visualize the high fence gone!  >:D


Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 19, 2016, 08:58:25 am
I seen them! Made we want to drape a hide over myself and put a sneak on........................................or not....
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 19, 2016, 08:58:57 am
Here's a pic of version number 1.  Still working on a couple more.  We're at 27.36 pounds @10.5 inches... 8)

OneBow


Bow looks real good. But who is the ugly mug in the background?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PatM on January 19, 2016, 09:25:09 am
Here's a pic of version number 1.  Still working on a couple more.  We're at 27.36 pounds @10.5 inches... 8)

OneBow

Do you shoot off that side?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on January 19, 2016, 09:49:30 am
Here's a pic of version number 1.  Still working on a couple more.  We're at 27.36 pounds @10.5 inches... 8)

OneBow

Do you shoot off that side?

No, I don't shoot off that side.  I also don't leap five feet off the ground, snatch an arrow shot at me out of the air, and shoot it back before my feet hit the floor.   ;)  This was just so I could show the camera how far it was drawn and to look at the tiller.

OneBow
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: sleek on January 19, 2016, 10:27:19 am
Here's a pic of version number 1.  Still working on a couple more.  We're at 27.36 pounds @10.5 inches... 8)

OneBow

Do you shoot off that side?

No, I don't shoot off that side.  I also don't leap five feet off the ground, snatch an arrow shot at me out of the air, and shoot it back before my feet hit the floor.   ;)  This was just so I could show the camera how far it was drawn and to look at the tiller.

OneBow


Oh i have faith in you. I bet it somebody broke a bow behind your ear while checking your tiller you could jump 10 feet in the air and turn around.

Pat on the other hand, he doesnt do stuff like that. Wouldnt no arrow try to touch him. A 4x8 sheet of ply once tried that. Lets just say, 180 mph 4x8 sheet of ply hit him, and pat didnt even flinch. It just blew into a million pieces. I think pat is chuck noris offspring.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Urufu_Shinjiro on January 19, 2016, 04:30:46 pm
I do shoot off that side and can't leap five feet...lol
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: burn em up chuck on January 22, 2016, 11:02:28 am
  just wanted to say, very cool thread. keep it coming

                                                   chuck
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 22, 2016, 01:18:40 pm
Got it shooting. It's a bit too long ... 27". 3" brace, approx 20#, I think, 13" draw.

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/knolltop314/fab1b96d-5cc3-4799-94c1-d8be1cdc7391.jpg)

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/knolltop314/8f70e82d-bc09-4849-a15f-31e5f687dc24.jpg)

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/knolltop314/fa5ffeb7-9c9d-4c11-babf-105b98832139.jpg)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on January 22, 2016, 01:30:13 pm
Pix Please Sir...   >:D 8)

OneBow
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 22, 2016, 01:30:34 pm
Got it shooting.
Got what shooting?  ???
I've always heard pic's or it didn't happen... :)
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 22, 2016, 01:50:11 pm
oooops . . . . fixed.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 22, 2016, 01:51:37 pm
What is with the smoking jacket sleeve Mikey? :)

Bow looks good!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 22, 2016, 02:00:01 pm
Wondered who'd comment 1st. Retirement garb.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 22, 2016, 02:19:19 pm
Looks good Mike......Shoot'n these suckers is tough isn't it..... :)
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 22, 2016, 02:39:22 pm
......Shoot'n these suckers is tough isn't it..... :)
DBar

Bareshaft testing is quite the adventure!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on January 22, 2016, 02:58:38 pm
Tiller looks pretty kewl Mr. Mike!  Are you firing that contraption indoors?  In a room with painted sheet rock walls?  Oh that's certainly a No-Go activity at my house!!!  I'd be sure to mar a wall before long!  ...but I don't have your MAD archery skills.

Like the fancy duds btw...  Did you go for the terrycloth belt or over-sized toggle style buttons?   :o 8) ;D


OneBow
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Urufu_Shinjiro on January 22, 2016, 04:05:11 pm
Wondered who'd comment 1st. Retirement garb.

Retirement home standard issue... >:D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on January 22, 2016, 04:48:08 pm
<snip>It's a bit too long ... 27". <snip>

What the What!?!?!  Mike you had to go and make the rest of us feel inferior about our tiny little wood bows didn't ya!?!?  What are you trying to do, take down a saber toothed Mouse with that thing!?!?  :)  ::) :o

OneBow
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: paulsemp on January 22, 2016, 05:33:37 pm
Thanks to Mike we're going to have to measure everyone's Bow at first check in. I vote if anyone tries to sneak in an extra half inch it immediately gets burned in the fire...
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on January 22, 2016, 05:52:12 pm
I'll second that Paul, it's 24" ttt right?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on January 22, 2016, 06:15:02 pm
<snip>I vote if anyone tries to sneak in an extra half inch it immediately gets burned in the fire...

Wow!  That's pretty harsh for a measly little half inch man!   >:D >:D >:D  I mean, couldn't you just let them pike it with a pocket knife???   8) 8) 8)

OneBow
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: paulsemp on January 22, 2016, 06:40:57 pm
Nope rules are rules >:D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 22, 2016, 07:48:02 pm
Maybe Mike just THINKS its longer than it is?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on January 22, 2016, 08:05:27 pm
I'm not a cheater like Mike is  ;D  I cut all my staves to 24" exactly before roughing out the bow.  I just cut a couple HHB.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: sleek on January 22, 2016, 08:17:27 pm
Is there a width or draw weight limit?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on January 23, 2016, 08:47:36 am
Is there a width or draw weight limit?

Nope...just 24" long total or less n made of natural materials...u could make a 100 pound  4" bow that shoots toothpicks if ya want ;)  :laugh: 
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 23, 2016, 08:54:20 am
I'm finding there is an ultra fine line between accurate and shoot far with these 24" bows! I'm leaning towards light and accurate. So I brought the tips around on mine and now pull 26" with it, ZERO set.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on January 23, 2016, 09:01:03 am
I have shot some short bows , but not sure I could get a 100  lb 4 inch bow back to full draw
that would be a Derringer, not a saturday night special, bet you cant hit the broadside  of a barn with it from inside the  barn
are we there yet?


26 in? Did you reverse  string that recurve or what ?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 23, 2016, 09:03:39 am
Its my story Guy! :)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on January 23, 2016, 10:36:53 am
I'm finding there is an ultra fine line between accurate and shoot far with these 24" bows!

Thats why ya make n bring two ;) a heavy weight brute thall launch easily across the pond,and a lighter target bow for the range....its all legal and within the rules ya know ;)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Stringman on January 23, 2016, 10:52:33 am
Wow, 26" draw on  24" bow! This group is forever rewriting the rules.... but?!?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: sleek on January 23, 2016, 10:57:31 am
I want to be clear here. If a rule is not specified, then its ok to do. Like you didnt say i cant paint my bow red, so i can. If you dont say i cant do something then that something is om to do, right?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 23, 2016, 03:34:23 pm
Will try to cut some fletchings today. 1 1/2" template looks awwwwwful tiny.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 23, 2016, 03:58:04 pm
Mike,
I used some duck wings on some of mine arrows (hunting arrows) and they seamed to be just right for 1.5" fletching....Send me your address and I'll send you some....I'm going to use my mini hunting arrows on some chipmunks Clint and I saw last year or the raccoons that raided the garbage cans.  :)
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 23, 2016, 04:33:27 pm
Hunting with these mini bows ... how cool's that!!
JonW gave me couple tiny stone points that I'll try to haft. But just for lookin' ... not huntin'.
PM sent.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on January 23, 2016, 05:36:20 pm
I want to be clear here. If a rule is not specified, then its ok to do. Like you didnt say i cant paint my bow red, so i can. If you dont say i cant do something then that something is om to do, right?

Before anyone answers Sleek on this I'd like to remind you all that he was a sailor, ...which means he's a slippery fella.  If there is a way to get by with a thing, he'll find it.  We may need a proviso that pushes the weight back toward the judges of the competition.  Perhaps a line in the rules that says something to the effect of:

   8)  8)  8) All determinations of the contest officials are final from the time they are made and may not be contested.  Any contrivance deemed to be outside of the spirit and intent of the contest can be unilaterally disqualified and the offending minibow will be immediately sacrificed to the campfire.  Objections to the decisions made by contest officials must be filed immediately with a $75 filing fee or a fifth of the contest official's favorite liquor.  ...after which a decision will be rendered that will exactly match the original decision made by the contest official.    8)  8)  8)


OneBow
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badly Bent on January 23, 2016, 05:45:07 pm
I volunteer to be a contest official, Basil Hayen or Woodford Reserve will do offenders.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: sleek on January 23, 2016, 05:53:41 pm
I want to be clear here. If a rule is not specified, then its ok to do. Like you didnt say i cant paint my bow red, so i can. If you dont say i cant do something then that something is om to do, right?

Before anyone answers Sleek on this I'd like to remind you all that he was a sailor, ...which means he's a slippery fella.  If there is a way to get by with a thing, he'll find it.  We may need a proviso that pushes the weight back toward the judges of the competition.  Perhaps a line in the rules that says something to the effect of:

   8)  8)  8) All determinations of the contest officials are final from the time they are made and may not be contested.  Any contrivance deemed to be outside of the spirit and intent of the contest can be unilaterally disqualified and the offending minibow will be immediately sacrificed to the campfire.  Objections to the decisions made by contest officials must be filed immediately with a $75 filing fee or a fifth of the contest official's favorite liquor.  ...after which a decision will be rendered that will exactly match the original decision made by the contest official.    8)  8)  8)


OneBow


Dont take all the fun out of it for me.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 23, 2016, 06:12:49 pm
Sleek....Onebow, you guys going to be there?
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on January 23, 2016, 07:09:28 pm
'll
I volunteer to be a contest official, Basil Hayen or Woodford Reserve will do offenders.
[

..you have good taste my friend😀
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 23, 2016, 07:24:41 pm
'll
I volunteer to be a contest official, Basil Hayen or Woodford Reserve will do offenders.
[

..you have good taste my friend😀

Kentucky Bourbon ...???? the best as far as I'm concerned ................ ;)
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on January 23, 2016, 07:59:41 pm
Sleek....Onebow, you guys going to be there?
DBar

that is the one rule  Sleek seems to have the hardest time getting strait
hope he gets it right , this year .

as for the bottle  , it will have little effect on this Official so read the rules carfully y'all
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badger on January 23, 2016, 08:22:52 pm
  Is it legal to attach a handle like a sling shot??
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on January 23, 2016, 09:24:53 pm
I'm already experimenting with that Badger.  I got a bow to 30 lbs at 10" today and did a test run with a handle attached.  I used electrical tape for the trial.  A rawhide wrap would be natural material.  It worked pretty good.  I was shooting a stiff piece of cane and sunk the flat tip 2" into a block target.  I've got some ideas for improving the arrow flight on the next one.

(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv22/Outlawstaves/20160123_134344_zpsbi5erwsr.jpg) (http://s666.photobucket.com/user/Outlawstaves/media/20160123_134344_zpsbi5erwsr.jpg.html)


(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv22/Outlawstaves/20160123_163600_zpsno236reb.jpg) (http://s666.photobucket.com/user/Outlawstaves/media/20160123_163600_zpsno236reb.jpg.html)


(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv22/Outlawstaves/20160123_163622_zpswsgmr755.jpg) (http://s666.photobucket.com/user/Outlawstaves/media/20160123_163622_zpswsgmr755.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on January 23, 2016, 09:41:50 pm
Carefull Clint you know how much those Michangers love crossbows  >:D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: sleek on January 23, 2016, 09:50:22 pm
Ok looks like i have been found out. Was gonna make a 100#cross bow.  I dont know if i was gonna be there or not, but if not, i was gonna ship it to someone that is so i can still participate in spirit.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on January 24, 2016, 02:13:47 am
Not sure if I can make it or not.  I'd like to.  I have a buddy in Battle Creek that has offered to put us up if we need a place.  But if that doesn't work out, some of us may have to settle for shooting similar tests at either the TN Classic or MOJAM and then sharing our results here...

OneBow
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on January 24, 2016, 07:48:47 am
I dont remeber seeing the letters c-r-o-s-s when i said "BOW" .....  ::)  ;)

I knew that would come up  :P

Attaching and rigging a small natural materials only type handle would be ok if you think you need to be a cheater and use a crutch  >:D i wont say any names..ahem clint  >:D  :laugh:
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 24, 2016, 08:50:25 am
Maybe try holding the bow upright with your hand being sideways, gangster style on the grip. You have a rest created already.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Aaron H on January 24, 2016, 08:52:58 am
Chris, I believe it is pronounced gangsta
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 24, 2016, 08:54:44 am
Aaaaah Yes. Thank you for the correction d-o-double "G"
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Aaron H on January 24, 2016, 08:58:06 am
Fo shizzle
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 24, 2016, 09:02:48 am
Manizzle
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: paulsemp on January 24, 2016, 09:05:24 am
He must be scared of a little string slap.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on January 24, 2016, 09:10:46 am
Sleek send it along we can tell you how it performed  and if it should survive I will put it to use kiling treerats in Ohio  >:D :laugh:

He must be scared of a little string slap.

key word being little!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: sleek on January 24, 2016, 09:41:07 am
I dont remeber seeing the letters c-r-o-s-s when i said "BOW" .....  ::)  ;)

Anything not restricted by the rules is fair game rigjr?

I knew that would come up  :P

Attaching and rigging a small natural materials only type handle would be ok if you think you need to be a cheater and use a crutch  >:D i wont say any names..ahem clint  >:D  :laugh:
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on January 24, 2016, 11:01:45 am
Hawkster:  We need some clarification.  Earlier I saw you posted 24" total.  Others have posted 24" Tip to Tip.  Please clarify.  Wouldn't want to have a bow end up in the fire!  >:D :-[
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on January 24, 2016, 11:03:31 am
Ready for sinew...  This one has been tedious, I have to say. 
Siyas are a bit bulky IMO.  Will have to trim them a bit later.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badger on January 24, 2016, 11:08:22 am
  That little jig Matt made to hold his bow while sawing is a very good example of attention to detail that I admire so much. That is a great looking little bow if it doesn't break Matt! I can't wait to hear your reports on it.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on January 24, 2016, 11:16:13 am
I think you meant to say, "while sinewing", Steve.  I can't saw it in half yet!   :laugh:  Thanks for the kind words.  Hope all is well with you. 
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 24, 2016, 12:36:04 pm
Have couple mini arrow prototypes completed. Believe these are 15" ... 1/4" dowels w/ 60 grn tips. One has 1 1/2" feathers and other is approx 2". Liking the 2" much better, but area for fingers is gettin' bit tight! Also an appropriate size quiver to put those arrows in.

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/knolltop314/100_3379.jpg)

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/knolltop314/100_3381.jpg)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on January 24, 2016, 01:04:29 pm
Ole man Hickory representing!!!  8)

24"ttt....25@10" .....actually a pleasure to shoot..im diggin it so far  :D


(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/Mobile%20Uploads/20160124_123057.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160124_123057.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on January 24, 2016, 01:09:35 pm
Hawkster:  We need some clarification.  Earlier I saw you posted 24" total.  Others have posted 24" Tip to Tip.  Please clarify.  Wouldn't want to have a bow end up in the fire!  >:D :-[

Matt..like if you was to run a tape from tip to tip faithfully following the back and all its steep curves as in your case ;)

Im so glad someone is making a horn bow...ive been on the fence whether to make one or not...but i better get on it if i do  as thats a alot of work n wait time...  ::) i prob wont tho..lol
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on January 24, 2016, 01:13:30 pm
Thanks, Hawkster.  What I meant to say earlier was TTT or NTN.  You answered it though. 

It's a fun project however, it's not a bow yet.  I won't count any chickens until the arrow flies.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 24, 2016, 01:16:59 pm
Close to perfect bend, Chris.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Aaron H on January 24, 2016, 01:17:24 pm
There are some pretty amazing bows coming out of this thread,  keep it up fellas
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 24, 2016, 01:36:27 pm
JonW . . . gonna give that pc of hhb another chance to be a bow.   ;)

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/knolltop314/100_3385.jpg)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on January 24, 2016, 02:02:19 pm
 I got sinew on my mini bow today (http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/my%20horn%20bow/20160124_104151_zpsfpsn8gxy.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/my%20horn%20bow/20160124_104151_zpsfpsn8gxy.jpg.html)
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/my%20horn%20bow/20160124_104219_zpswdfvkaot.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/my%20horn%20bow/20160124_104219_zpswdfvkaot.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 24, 2016, 02:30:36 pm
Looking good, Bub.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on January 24, 2016, 02:52:26 pm
I'm liking all the sinew backers on this!  Nice looking there, Bubby! :)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on January 24, 2016, 03:30:52 pm
If mine survives and yours does matt we will have two different styles of mini horn bows
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on January 24, 2016, 03:44:07 pm
Nice bub.....

Hey...can i "take it home today" ...lol  :laugh:

This thread has been awesome....thanks to all so far who've been playing along and show n tell  :D

I know this has been a learning experience for me...ive learned some things in doing these...no room for errors or inferior woods thats for sure... ;)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on January 24, 2016, 03:48:42 pm
Chris if it survives threw everything if anyone wants it they can have it, it ain't coming back to California
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on January 24, 2016, 03:51:18 pm
One other thought....we need to get a group picture shot and however many minis you made with the Canadian Warbow guys!!!!  >:D They're  gonna be giving us some funny looks...and dont judge a man by the size of his stick!!!  :laugh:  :laugh:


@bub...cool..i got first dibs on that sucka then...thanks ;)  ;D  8)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on January 24, 2016, 04:01:35 pm
So your saying it's not the size of your stick it's how ya use it😈
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on January 24, 2016, 04:05:55 pm
^^^^
EXACTLY!!!! LOL  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on January 24, 2016, 04:54:31 pm
Yes Bub!  It would be great if they both turned out!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: RyanR on January 24, 2016, 05:05:59 pm
Well I am getting a late start on this. I think there will be a learning curve for me with how much wood I have to take off to get this to bend. I have a little Osage stick roughed out but it isn't bending yet. There isn't much wood left. I can only imagine how hard it will be to tiller. It is 22-1/2" ttt. If mine goes in the fire it will be because I broke it, not because it's too long >:D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: paulsemp on January 24, 2016, 05:34:43 pm
If mine can't shoot across that lake to the bear I'm definitely giving mine of Viking funeral or I'll use it as a skewer to cook up some sausage that night
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 24, 2016, 06:16:19 pm
You're right Ryan. Its a sliver of wood once you get to 15-25#.  Especially if its over an inch wide. I'll be curious to see how the sinew backed bows work out. Im struggling with arrow flight now. I just need to take some sandpaper to the arrows until they fly better.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 24, 2016, 06:26:55 pm
Im struggling with arrow flight now. I just need to take some sandpaper to the arrows until they fly better.
Did best I could with bareshaft testing. But it's hard to see the lil suckas fly ... especially in the basement!
With 1/4" dowels wt @ 24" was 160-180 grn. Forgot to weigh 'em @ 15". Field pts are 60 grn. They looked to be a bit stiff. But fletched 'em anyway. Have shot them just a few times up to now, but flight seems decent enough.

Haven't found source for 1/4" carbons, yet.   >:D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badger on January 24, 2016, 06:36:03 pm
  Pearl if you are using real short arrows get the densest wood you have available. Some of the cane is actually fairly dense. I think Tonkin cane is about 1 1/2 times as dense as ipe. I think a 70 grain arrow would fly real nice out of a 15# bow.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on January 24, 2016, 07:02:14 pm
Knoll, just glue up a bundle of the shattered fibers from the carbon we all Robin Hooded for you at Radcliff's place.  Silk bind those into a 1/4 inch-ish dowel and you're good to go!!!  🤓😏😎

OneBow
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badly Bent on January 24, 2016, 07:31:45 pm
I still haven't started yet and already see guys making complete sets including that slick little mini quiver of yours Mike. A fully grown,  grown-up man with a mini quiver of tiny arrows is gonna be a silly sight at the gathering. ;D ;D
You guys are kicking butt on this challenge.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 24, 2016, 07:35:58 pm
My lil quiver isn't a side quiver .... it's an under armpit quiver.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on January 24, 2016, 08:54:44 pm
Concealed carry archery set.  I love it.  Do you need a permit for that?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 24, 2016, 09:02:00 pm
Im going to build another, a super simple straight bow like Chris' hickory. Same length and weight as my static. I want to see what really matters on 11" of limb.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: jeffp51 on January 25, 2016, 12:10:14 am
I have been enjoying this thread.  I hope someone takes some video to share for the rest of us who won't be at the gathering.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 25, 2016, 12:31:07 am
I know someone who's making a holmie. Hope that someone gets it shooting.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: sleek on January 25, 2016, 12:50:45 am
Concealed carry archery set.  I love it.  Do you need a permit for that?

Only if its a high capacity quiver.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 26, 2016, 01:16:43 pm
Took one of bows & couple arrows to Mon night indoor 3d shoot. Everyone thought it was "cute kids" toy. Until put 2 arrows into backstop 20 yds out. And 2 outta 3 into laying down deer @ 13 yds. Then there was a bit more interest!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Urufu_Shinjiro on January 26, 2016, 01:35:08 pm
Nice!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: lebhuntfish on January 26, 2016, 02:53:42 pm
Took one of bows & couple arrows to Mon night indoor 3d shoot. Everyone thought it was "cute kids" toy. Until put 2 arrows into backstop 20 yds out. And 2 outta 3 into laying down deer @ 13 yds. Then there was a bit more interest!

Watch out fellas, Knoll means business!
Patrick
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on January 26, 2016, 04:02:18 pm
I'll have to just concentrate on the range performance of my mini's, ...because I seriously doubt that micro-sizing my bow will be doing anything to IMPROVE my accuracy!   :-[ :embarassed: :o

OneBow
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: paulsemp on January 26, 2016, 04:06:16 pm
Seems like a lot of guys are working on minis. Just out of curiosity are all you guys planning on coming to Marshall?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on January 26, 2016, 05:55:03 pm
Seems like a lot of guys are working on minis. Just out of curiosity are all you guys planning on coming to Marshall?

sure they are Paul cause they heard how good the food is but don't  want to give the cook a big head so they are going with the bow contest excuse
Are we there yet ?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: paulsemp on January 26, 2016, 06:03:21 pm
Lots of good cooks there....
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: ajooter on January 26, 2016, 06:06:18 pm
Been a fun thread to follow...wish I was able to go to marshall...hope you guys take a lot of pictures during the shootoff!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 26, 2016, 06:59:08 pm
I think some of you have seen my bow post of the "His and Her" bows ......well it is his and her daughter's (my granddaughter) first birthday Jan 29. After Marshall I am going to retire this bow to my granddaughter and name it "Theirs" and date it her birthday.
Thanks for looking.......your probably tired of turkey feathers.... :)
till next time .....now off to the bathroom remodel. :'(
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 26, 2016, 07:26:15 pm
Fab, Bill!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Aaron H on January 26, 2016, 08:12:09 pm
Bill, that is awesome!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 26, 2016, 08:20:36 pm
"Piked" to 24". 3" brace and 11" draw.

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/knolltop314/100_3387.jpg)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 26, 2016, 08:22:52 pm
Look'n good mike........... now all we've got to do is practice shootn.... :)
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badly Bent on January 26, 2016, 09:44:10 pm
Very cool work Bill, will be a nice b-day gift for your grand daughter.

Nice tiller on your derringer Mike.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on January 26, 2016, 11:23:47 pm
That's awesome dbar, i think I'll make a thumb ring to shoot with
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Cade on January 26, 2016, 11:45:38 pm
These are all looking great guys! Did I read correctly that you were planning on shooting these at each other? Kind of like archery tag? It sounds like fun but I was just wondering what tips you have on your arrows.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on January 26, 2016, 11:55:07 pm
Cade, I think they are all going to shoot them at me.  It won't be the first time I've had arrows flying by me at Marshall.


Bill, your the turkey backed expert.  Great job on that little bow.  I'm sure They will like it.


Knoll, glad to see you are playing by the rules.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: neuse on January 27, 2016, 07:30:04 am
Some good looking bows ya'll are building.

Bill, you killed it with that one, gorgeous.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on January 27, 2016, 09:50:09 am
<snip>Knoll, glad to see you are playing by the rules.

Not quite following the rules yet!  Even 0.3 inches extra yardage is likely still enough to get you 'burned'.  Best get out the hatchet...

OneBow
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 27, 2016, 11:58:02 am
2-finger tab is improvement over bare fingers!

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/knolltop314/100_3388.jpg)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on January 27, 2016, 12:06:29 pm
Damn Bill, "Theirs" is beautiful!
Mike, nice tiller on that.  Looking great.

I get to start sinewing this weekend.  Yay!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: lebhuntfish on January 27, 2016, 01:32:08 pm
<snip>Knoll, glad to see you are playing by the rules.


Not quite following the rules yet!  Even 0.3 inches extra yardage is likely still enough to get you 'burned'.  Best get out the hatchet...

OneBow


I think he ment he has a 3" brace!

Patrick
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on January 27, 2016, 02:23:00 pm
<snip>Knoll, glad to see you are playing by the rules.


Not quite following the rules yet!  Even 0.3 inches extra yardage is likely still enough to get you 'burned'.  Best get out the hatchet...

OneBow


I think he ment he has a 3" brace!

Patrick

Well, dang!  That makes sense!  I'm usually a little better at reading comprehension than that.  SHEESH!  Sorry I doubted you Mr. Mike!

OneBow
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: sleek on January 27, 2016, 03:44:59 pm
Just dont doubt his shooting skills.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on January 27, 2016, 03:48:02 pm
That's awesome dbar, i think I'll make a thumb ring to shoot with

Day late and a dollar short NoCal :)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: sleek on January 27, 2016, 04:05:47 pm
just use a compound bow trigger release.....

Ima go duck for cover now.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on January 27, 2016, 05:11:11 pm

That's awesome dbar, i think I'll make a thumb ring to shoot with
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Day late and a dollar short NoCal :)



Always Pearl, always😃
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on January 27, 2016, 06:24:44 pm
Wow Bill thinkin you win for prettyest bow

Mike ,good job

mine is still in the quarter round state but should get 2 or 3 out of it
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on January 30, 2016, 08:43:02 pm
Spoke to Gary Davis today , he says he's in
Matt Wirwiki  was laying  down a layer of sinew on his , I am sure he will post again when he gets home from the Kalamazoo Traditional Archery Expo
this is gonna be good
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on January 30, 2016, 09:17:31 pm
Once again Marshall, MI, will be host to many of the legends of primitive archery! I understand there's one feller comin' all the way from CA. So if you're within a 48-hour drive, how can ya miss this one??!!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: GlisGlis on January 31, 2016, 09:43:51 am
put them in the vitals or face his fury >:D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on February 03, 2016, 09:43:27 am
Started bending the mhb over my knee watching tv last nite , it looks pretty good so far
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on February 05, 2016, 03:39:27 pm
What are you guys doing about strings?  I'd like to make a double Flemish loop but my string jig only goes down to 48 inches.  I can certainly just do a Bowyer's knot on one end, which is easy enough. 

Also, how many strands are you guys using.  I have both FF and B-50 to use, but I've never built a string for a 30 pound bow out of FF.  It seems it would be an exceptionally fine gauge string.  Even double serving it will barely fill a typical nock width.  :-\  :-\  :-\

OneBow
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: sleek on February 05, 2016, 03:50:04 pm
Pad the arrow nock area onbowdude. Add extra strands into the twist only in that one spot. Works for the bow nock also. Its something Patrick showed me so dont worry, its safe :D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on February 05, 2016, 04:22:01 pm
Am using B55. Two each 3-ply bundles. Bowyers knot one end. Padded each end w/ 4 additional strands. Didn't think to pad arrow nocking area, but am doing self nocks so can fit nocks to served diameter.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on February 05, 2016, 04:28:32 pm
I doubled the length plus 3" so i set the jig up for 51" and did 5 strands doubled it over and cut it, gave me two 5 strand bundles and made a double loop string
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on February 09, 2016, 06:58:11 pm
Too cold outside and too much under the weather in my head. So spent the afternoon in basement craft shop shaping self nocks for mini bow arrows.

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/knolltop314/100_3415.jpg)

These shafts were weeds growing along a path that we hiked last fall. Don't know what they are, but they're light! These may be my "flight" arrows for the cross pond shootin'.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on February 09, 2016, 07:32:12 pm
Look'n good Mike............
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on February 11, 2016, 09:33:22 pm
Good looking stuff
No bow work going on here , sure hope that changes soon
Keep up the good work fellows
See ya soon!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on February 12, 2016, 07:13:24 pm
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/my%20horn%20bow/20160212_145405_HDR_zpsfm61fy7e.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/my%20horn%20bow/20160212_145405_HDR_zpsfm61fy7e.jpg.html)
Here's mine at 10" had it to 11". Still trying to bring the tips around a little and might add a little sinew at the handle area
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 12, 2016, 08:09:11 pm
Any guess on draw weight bub? Get those mids moving just a bit more and the handle will start to look better.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on February 12, 2016, 08:19:40 pm
thats what I'm working on now Pearl cause i knew thats what you were gonna say😉
It is somewhere between 20 and thirty I'm quessing
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badly Bent on February 12, 2016, 08:26:56 pm
very cool bub, can't wait to see all these mini bows in action.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on February 12, 2016, 09:26:02 pm
You'll be able to shoot that 3-under! Nice, very nice.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on February 12, 2016, 10:01:05 pm
Thanks greg, mike i got something else planned besides three under😉
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on February 15, 2016, 08:21:22 am
Bubby, that's a beauty!  Sure like that one.

I got the final layer of sinew on mine, yesterday.  I don't know...  Starting to feel like maybe I overbuilt it.  Might be too heavy to bend. 
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 15, 2016, 09:07:37 am
Thanks greg, mike i got something else planned besides three under😉


SSSSSHHHHHH!!!!!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on March 20, 2016, 07:43:12 pm
I got my sinew backed osage bow tillered this weekend at the Moontree Gathering.  I don't know the stats but it shoots pretty hard.  I started thinning down an Ocean Spray mini bow.  There isn't much of it left and its just barely bending. 


(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv22/Outlawstaves/20160319_191856_zpsajrbrkzk.jpg) (http://s666.photobucket.com/user/Outlawstaves/media/20160319_191856_zpsajrbrkzk.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Aaron H on March 21, 2016, 07:46:06 am
Nice looking Clint, I like the quarter for reference.  ;)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Urufu_Shinjiro on March 21, 2016, 01:31:06 pm
I missed this thread....
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on March 22, 2016, 04:22:10 pm
Looks good Clint !
Hope I can start one soon maybe next week if
I can keep from messing with that peice of Walnut I started playing with.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badly Bent on March 22, 2016, 07:50:15 pm
Looks mighty good there Clint.
I better start one soon or I'm gonna miss out on all the fun.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on March 25, 2016, 05:06:35 pm
Okay I got the walnut shaped and reduced down to finish drying  so hope to get rolling on my Minibow this weekend
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on March 25, 2016, 06:25:00 pm
Mine's definitely gonna be the plain jane among all these nifty lil shooters!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: comsio on March 26, 2016, 06:17:39 am
My questions sounds stupid: who is Marshall and where will the challenge take place? Where can I read about it?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on March 26, 2016, 06:25:20 am
Marshall is a primitive archery event held in Marshall Michigan.  Here is a post about it.

http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,55679.0.html
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: comsio on March 26, 2016, 06:54:15 am
Thanks, I feared it might have something to do with Joseph Marshall III from Rosebud Reservation, but he is not an expert in archery anyway - as I have found out in the meantime. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s/ref=is_s?k=joseph+marshall

Five years ago he accepted my order for bow, arrows, quiver and bow case plus a deposit in the amount of $ 750. Two years later he told me that he "has no time to make the items but he would refund me". Which he never did, he kept my money. I'm still waiting for the refund.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on March 26, 2016, 10:37:48 am
Thanks, I feared it might have something to do with Joseph Marshall III from Rosebud Reservation, but he is not an expert in archery anyway - as I have found out in the meantime.

Five years ago he accepted my order for bow, arrows, quiver and bow case plus a deposit in the amount of $ 750. Two years later he told me that he "has no time to make the items but he would refund me". Which he never did, he kept my money. I'm still waiting for the refund.

invite this fellow to Marshall  we have a special way to honor him ! >:D :laugh:

If you can get to our event we will honor you sir with a true gift that can not be bought but is truly priceless and there are plenty of good folks standing with me to back that up.
hope it works out for ya
Guy
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on March 29, 2016, 09:56:54 pm
I decided it was time to get busy making some tiny arrows.  On my way home tonight I went on a supply run to hillbilly heaven, aka walmart.  I picked up a couple packs of bamboo cake decorating rods.  On my way back through the store I wondered down the camping isle to check out some stuff for the Classic when something caught my eye.  It was bamboo grill skewers.  Both are solid bamboo.  The cake rods are  1/4" x 12" long and cost $2 a pack.  The grill skewers are 13/64" x 32" long and were only $0.88 a pack.  I'm going to make some out of both and see how it works.  An empty .22 shell casing fits over the skewers nicely.

(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv22/Outlawstaves/20160329_211810_zpsc019qtnv.jpg) (http://s666.photobucket.com/user/Outlawstaves/media/20160329_211810_zpsc019qtnv.jpg.html)

(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv22/Outlawstaves/20160329_211842_zpsn5ekl0vn.jpg) (http://s666.photobucket.com/user/Outlawstaves/media/20160329_211842_zpsn5ekl0vn.jpg.html)


Not a bad haul for under $6.

(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv22/Outlawstaves/20160329_212206_zpszyxvx6pv.jpg) (http://s666.photobucket.com/user/Outlawstaves/media/20160329_212206_zpszyxvx6pv.jpg.html)


(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv22/Outlawstaves/20160329_214225_zps6o0tlu5s.jpg) (http://s666.photobucket.com/user/Outlawstaves/media/20160329_214225_zps6o0tlu5s.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on March 29, 2016, 10:14:26 pm
Picked up a pack the other day too. But didn't know what gonna use on business end. Now have a clue.
Self nocks? Such small diameter!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on March 29, 2016, 10:21:18 pm
The dancing bear had self nocks on skewers half that size. 
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on March 29, 2016, 10:33:49 pm
 ::)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on March 29, 2016, 10:36:14 pm
I might try burning the nocks in with a heavy paper clip and a torch. 
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Pat B on March 29, 2016, 10:43:55 pm
A sinew wrap should protect the self nock even on a skewer.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on March 29, 2016, 10:46:34 pm
I might try burning the nocks in with a heavy paper clip and a torch.

brilliant!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: mulberry on March 30, 2016, 02:13:26 am
I'm off that weekend and I have a mini bow going :)
I'll be heading that way from W central IN.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on March 30, 2016, 10:10:01 pm
Good deal Clint!

Be glad  to meet you Mulberry !

Got my first  prototype tillered out tonight, 20@12
 so on to the next one
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on March 30, 2016, 10:33:27 pm
Good arrows are the key to accuracy ...............I didn't see those rolled eyes Mike.. :) ;)
Try cutting the nocks with a small jig saw blade by hand...
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on March 30, 2016, 10:38:45 pm

Good arrows are the key to accuracy





So that's my problem😏 it will be nice to check out yous dbar, see some real arrows instead of mine lol
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on March 30, 2016, 10:47:26 pm
Bubby, Your putting a lot of pressure on me.....I just said good arrows are the key to accuracy. :)  ;)
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on March 30, 2016, 11:29:04 pm
pressure makes diamonds😈
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on April 02, 2016, 08:49:32 pm
Blackhawk these things are a blast ,
Thanks for the challenge!
The 2nd attempt is 30@12 so I will sand it and finsh it up
now on to arrows for it
by the way  how many strands of B50 do I need for 30 lbs am going lite as possible  for performance on this one
using 4 strand right now but a bit nervous with it
See ya all there in less than 8 weeks now
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on April 02, 2016, 09:01:58 pm
Sweet guy...what kind of wood is ur second one?  I was tinkering around and shooting with the hickory one i made today...powerful little things they are.  :D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on April 02, 2016, 09:04:36 pm
Stayed with the Hickory
Wait till you see this little cute!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on April 02, 2016, 09:34:24 pm
how many strands of B50 do I need .....

I use 1 strand per 5 lbs.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on April 03, 2016, 08:18:24 am
how many strands of B50 do I need .....

I use 1 strand per 5 lbs.

thanks .
I best make a different one then, means bigger nocks also so best do that before I start the finishing
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on April 03, 2016, 09:12:29 pm
Most of you folks know I don't post my work but.
 This thing is to cute not to post !
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on April 03, 2016, 09:14:15 pm
I had a blast hope she holds up
see ya in Marshall Michigan
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: ajooter on April 03, 2016, 09:21:19 pm
That's awesome buckeye!  Find a knome  and let's see the FD!  >:D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on April 03, 2016, 10:10:18 pm
That is pretty cool
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on April 03, 2016, 10:33:18 pm
That looks like more than 24" of bow.  We might need to consult the rules committee  ;D   

That's some nice work Guy.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on April 03, 2016, 10:51:51 pm
Good Grief, Guy!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: blackhawk on April 04, 2016, 06:03:16 am
Thats awesome Mr Dasher!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on April 04, 2016, 08:38:41 am
Very nice, Guy!  I'll bet that was fun to make.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on April 04, 2016, 04:18:31 pm
Very nice, Guy!  I'll bet that was fun to make.

still waiting to see your creation finished up Matt!
I know it will blow the rest of us away
Fellows  Matt is pulling out all the stops on this challenge so. if you think you can do better than you have you best get at it !
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on April 04, 2016, 04:30:35 pm
That's awesome buckeye!  Find a knome  and let's see the FD!  >:D

no Knomes around here but did find a beautiful young lady to work the camera so here you go!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on April 04, 2016, 05:50:04 pm
That's pretty impressive....Guy....
I really like it.
Thanks Bad Chris for dreaming this challenge up.
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on April 06, 2016, 08:42:26 am
Thanks Guy but, it isn't a bow yet.  I did some more work on it this weekend and last night.  I glued a handle reinforcement horn on the belly and sinew wrapped around the siyahs and the handle fadeouts.  The sinew backing has cured since the Kalamazoo Expo and is good and dry.  I'm thinking about trying to string her up this weekend.  I'm a bit nervous.  I'm thinking that there isn't enough length in the bending portion of the limbs.  If it does, I'm thinking it will be rather stiff.  I have to remember to make some pre-bend forms.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on April 08, 2016, 10:35:42 am
Here are the latest pics.  This weekend, I will make some limb formers and attempt it's first bend, possibly brace.  Likely, I'll have some tillering/balancing of the limbs.  If it doesn't blow up, that is....
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on April 08, 2016, 10:48:29 am
Oh man, that's a wicked little thing Matt.  Have fun stringing that one.  It might jump out of your hands and across the workshop.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on April 08, 2016, 11:00:53 am
Dang guys!  It's looking like a lot of advanced engineering went into some of these...

OneBow
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on April 08, 2016, 11:14:05 am
Oh man, that's a wicked little thing Matt.  Have fun stringing that one.  It might jump out of your hands and across the workshop.

Yep Clintster, I'm really nervous about this one.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Pat B on April 08, 2016, 11:23:25 am
Very cool little bow, Matt. Reminds me of a carriage bow from the days of old.  Bring it to the Classic so I can see it up close.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on April 08, 2016, 11:27:06 am
I'll bring it, Pat.  Looking forward to seeing you.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Pat B on April 08, 2016, 11:55:28 am
Likewise!   8)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on April 08, 2016, 12:20:03 pm
Wow Matt, i should just leave my crappy little horn bow home hope it makes it for you
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on April 08, 2016, 12:29:14 pm
What kind of weight are you looking for out of that bow Matt?  I'll bring my mini bow to the Classic.  It's a roasting stick compared to yours
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on April 08, 2016, 12:39:03 pm
insanely talented!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on April 08, 2016, 02:30:03 pm
Clint:  I have absolutely no idea on the draw weight.  Why I am so nervous is that there is only 4" of bendable limb for each side. 
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on April 08, 2016, 02:46:32 pm
You might want to wear a cup when you string that thing.  One of those levers could do a lot of damage.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 08, 2016, 03:14:36 pm
Matt I was surprised at how little wood it took to make 20#. I bet your bow is 60-70# right now. With my static I stick one tip in my thigh and hook the other under a countertop over hang, then pull up in the center and brace it, its a CHORE even at 18-20#!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on April 08, 2016, 04:41:13 pm
Drums:  Yep, just flexing it a little bit, I'm thinking its way up where you said.  If it takes it, I may have to do some serious narrowing of the limbs.  It would be kinda difficult to pull a short 23-1/2" bow back at 60+ pounds.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on April 08, 2016, 05:12:26 pm
Can't wait to see her strung !
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Aaron H on April 08, 2016, 07:11:39 pm
Wow Matt, that looks awesome!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: JW_Halverson on April 08, 2016, 07:47:37 pm
Hmmm, off topic..I know, when do I EVER go off topic...but Blackhawk's username is now showing him as a guest.   :o
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: DC on April 08, 2016, 08:26:31 pm
Someone must of peed  HIM off :D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on April 08, 2016, 08:51:53 pm
I always consider him a Guest!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Stringman on April 08, 2016, 10:22:49 pm
He must have decided we weren't good company...
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: paulsemp on April 09, 2016, 12:21:19 am
Appears he took his ball and gone home and erased all ways of getting hold of him.....
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 09, 2016, 08:15:30 am
So anyway.....I hope you get her working, Matt. I want to see that baby in person.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on April 09, 2016, 01:27:57 pm
Nerve racking...
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: paulsemp on April 09, 2016, 02:03:55 pm
That's crazy Matt!  I wish you the best of luck, that be quite the sight to see
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on April 09, 2016, 02:17:58 pm
That's an amazing bow Matt.....
I just think your going to have a hard time shooting it.
Good luck would like to see it at the classic....
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on April 09, 2016, 02:24:58 pm
DBar,  I don't think for me anymore that its about shooting it.  Just trying to pull it off.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on April 09, 2016, 02:30:34 pm
I'm with ya Matt!
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on April 09, 2016, 02:45:55 pm
I'm in your corner, make her bend!!!!!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: missilemaster on April 09, 2016, 02:48:28 pm
Sit on that thing Matt! :o Thats crazy man! Has to be over 50#?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on April 09, 2016, 02:57:21 pm
Probably 50 plus. 
I finally got her on the forms.  Took a lot of horn scraping.  All while I was trying to get it on the forms, the sinew in places would make a light snap noise.  It was breaking.  I interpreted it as too much stress in those spots.  I reduced the thickness of the sinew, also until I could get it locked down.  Part of the time involved is making the tools.  In Adam Karpowicz's book, he used rope on the forms.  I couldn't keep the knots tight enough.  Having to think of an alternative, I came up with the nut & bolt bridges.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on April 09, 2016, 04:52:52 pm
You got it Matt!  Keep bending that thing!!!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on April 09, 2016, 07:07:56 pm
Looking good !
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on April 09, 2016, 08:35:07 pm
23-5/8" long, TTT.  Had to add string bridges.  But, well...  it's strung.  A little uneven.  Gotta lighten her up a bit, anyways.  She's kinda stiff, as expected.  Frankly, I'm surprised it made it this far.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on April 09, 2016, 08:39:15 pm
That's incredible Matt, way to go!
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Stixnstones on April 09, 2016, 08:43:01 pm
Thats effin unbelievable, buddy
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Stringman on April 09, 2016, 09:00:32 pm
I think I'm gonna leave my lil stick at home.. :-[

I'm impressed Matt!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on April 09, 2016, 09:31:53 pm
 Matt wins.  I'll bring my mini bow in case we need some kindling for a fire.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: missilemaster on April 09, 2016, 09:35:10 pm
You win.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on April 09, 2016, 10:20:41 pm
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2016-04-09-19-11-362_zpscplgxu4g.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2016-04-09-19-11-362_zpscplgxu4g.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 10, 2016, 07:09:46 am
Wicked, Matt....
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: JW_Halverson on April 10, 2016, 01:22:55 pm
Leave it to Matt to take it almost too far!  I believe this one really needs to be entered for BOM!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badger on April 10, 2016, 01:28:46 pm
  That is one heck of a little bow! Great work Matt.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Pat B on April 10, 2016, 02:30:53 pm
Incredible Matt.  8)   If you'd like to try some small diameter hill cane for arrows I'll bring you some to the Classic to try .
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on April 10, 2016, 03:00:21 pm
Pat we are hoping that  you can fix us up with some hill cane for these little giants !
We just need 12 -15 inches per shaft I am sure you can find some small pieces  that will make killer shafts for these
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on April 10, 2016, 03:23:40 pm
Son-Of-A @#$%^&*() !!!
It was all going just, too well. 
Alright, gotta keep my head.  Just a small setback...

Hey Pat, that'd be great!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on April 10, 2016, 03:47:22 pm
Run soom bone plates on the siges to reinforce the ears Matt, but you already thought of that😉
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on April 10, 2016, 03:52:43 pm
Thought of doing that in the early stages but forgot.  Thanks Bubby!  I'll do it!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Pat B on April 10, 2016, 04:24:23 pm
I'll cut a bunch of small diameter and you guys can fight over it.  ;D
 Too bad Matt but I'm confident you will remedy the situation.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on April 10, 2016, 04:26:19 pm
Okay, at 10-inches of draw, I scaled it at 25#.  I've reduced horn and sinew to a point that I think I need to stop.  Any thinner on the horn, and the core wood will show through.   Anymore on the sinew and I'll lose the integrity of the back an it'll come apart.  I was hoping for 12" of draw, but I just don't think it's there.  I don't have enough working limb in my design. 

It's very difficult to pull the 25# at 10 inches, anyways.  I did shoot Wee-Wicki's arrows through it and it's mighty fast as I might expect.  But many little baby bows shoot very fast.  Especially I'm certain, the ones made by the other fine bowyers in this thread. 

I'm gonna make the call and decorate it.  Thanks Guys for the moral support!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Pat B on April 10, 2016, 04:29:01 pm
How'd it feel in your hand to shoot.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on April 10, 2016, 04:40:42 pm
Actually, not too bad Pat.  Gotta hold it different to keep the string from slapping my wrist but it's rather stable.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Aaron H on April 11, 2016, 07:04:08 am
Wow Matt!   That is awesome!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Urufu_Shinjiro on April 11, 2016, 04:54:12 pm
Ok, someone at Marshall take some video of this and the other bows, this is too cool!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on April 11, 2016, 05:14:29 pm
We have to much fun at Marshall to take time for pics so y'all just have to show up!
or maby send someone to take the pics for you  >:D :laugh:

How about it folks anyone want to volunteer to do pics ?
y'all know I aint got time !
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Aaron H on April 12, 2016, 10:53:56 am
Well I may or may not be able to make it to the Classic in a couple weeks,  I should know by this weekend.  Since I know some of you are bringing your mini's to Clarksville, I decided to jump in on this fun.  I started one about a week ago.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Aaron H on April 12, 2016, 10:59:31 am
Pics,  Osage 23 7/8" TtT,  7/8" wide, Massey style.   Ready for sinew.  I hope 2 weeks is enough time to dry.  ???
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 12, 2016, 11:07:18 am
Copy cat......and to heck with your ROYALS!!! Go Tigers!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Aaron H on April 12, 2016, 12:02:41 pm
We can't be friends now Chris.  Enjoy Verlander for the next 8 1/2 years.  Haha
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 12, 2016, 12:07:16 pm
No, we cant. It would be like a Yankee and Red sock being buddies, it just cant happen. Sorry it had to end this way A-a-ron.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Aaron H on April 12, 2016, 12:31:17 pm
Unfortunately most of those static recurves were cut off, the bow as pictured was 26".  I reduced it down last night.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 12, 2016, 12:35:41 pm
Even with an inch off each tip, you git the string angle changed. That's goal number one, IMO.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Stringman on April 12, 2016, 12:36:19 pm
Keep us posted on the classic possibilities, you will be welcome at our fire any time!

Nice start on that fly swatter. I've been putting some arrows together and making sure mines ready. Pretty sure I won't be able to hit and thing, but still fun.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Aaron H on April 12, 2016, 01:24:57 pm
Thanks Scott, I'll keep you in the loop
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on April 12, 2016, 02:05:11 pm
The bow looks good Aaaaaaron.  Hope you can make it to the Classic.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Aaron H on April 12, 2016, 02:11:29 pm
Thanks Clint, I am crossing my fingers I will get the chance to shake hands with many of you
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on April 12, 2016, 04:15:53 pm
Aaron, if you don't make it to the TN Classic, you can just bring it to MOJAM.  Several of us there will be doing the 24 inch bows as well.  ...and you are quite likely to find a goodly number of WORLD CHAMPION KC ROYALS fans there too!  :D ;D ;) :laugh: 8)

OneBow
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Aaron H on April 12, 2016, 04:42:26 pm
Been a long time since we have been able to say that huh Eric.  Let's see last time that it happened, I was 3.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: wizardgoat on April 12, 2016, 04:49:18 pm
Wow I haven't checked in on this thread for a little while! Some sweet little projects happening!
I need to see a picture of all you guys holding these bows haha
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on April 13, 2016, 09:43:24 pm
Hey Guys,
Need some more of you checking in with what you are doing.....no surprises.   Come on.....post some pic's of the stuff you guys are mak'in ..I know your are mak'in some cool stuff...

Matt, again that thing is over the top with cool...but can it be shot...I think that was part of the challenge. 

I've been shooting 1 hr every day ;) :)  .....and I'm ready. Even the 95 yard bear shot is in my sights this year...  The ones at Moontree know what I'm talking about. ;)

Just stirring it up, :)  yea sure........
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on April 13, 2016, 10:04:29 pm
I'm getting ready to size the back of my bow.  Tomorrow night I'll skin it.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on April 14, 2016, 07:58:54 am
Yes DBar, It does shoot!  Shot a dozen or so from it on Sunday.  Started making arrows and ordered some leather for the backing.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Urufu_Shinjiro on April 14, 2016, 10:08:34 am
Yes DBar, It does shoot!  Shot a dozen or so from it on Sunday.

It's alive, it's ALIVE!!!!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Pat B on April 14, 2016, 12:17:50 pm
I cut some small diameter hill cane that I'm bringing to the Classic for you guys. Some of this should make good arrows for the mini bows. I've got about 50 pieces so far and will try to get more before then. The light colored cane on top is a normal sized arrow cane.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/mini%20hill%20cane_zpszpxzleux.png) (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/PatBNC/media/mini%20hill%20cane_zpszpxzleux.png.html)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on April 14, 2016, 12:31:48 pm
Thanks Pat.  I'll try a few if you don't mind.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Pat B on April 14, 2016, 12:43:46 pm
That's what they are for Clint. Anyone with one of the mini bows is welcome to share these.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on April 14, 2016, 12:51:47 pm
Thanks, Pat!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on April 14, 2016, 05:37:33 pm
Thanks Pat.............I'll help you get rid of thoes light colored ones that won't work in mini bows.  ;) :)
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on April 14, 2016, 05:47:37 pm
Thank alot Pat we were hoping you would come thru for us !

just keep sturing the pot Dbar , I love it

Will see some of ya in 2 weeks and the rest in about 6  , man its closing in fast now
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on April 14, 2016, 10:32:29 pm
I just glued a mini skin on my mini bow. 

Guy, do we have any place to shoot for distance?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Pat B on April 14, 2016, 10:36:03 pm
DBar, I may have a few at the Classic. I cut some more today.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on April 15, 2016, 12:15:42 am
I added some sinew in the mid on my bow and wrapped the "handle" section. It will be finished in plenty of time
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on April 15, 2016, 07:38:25 am
I cleaned up some horn for tip reinforcements and rec'd some real thin leather for the covering on the back.  Hope to get those both glued and ready for paint & finishing.  Got started on some arrows, too.  Coming together but, running out of time.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on April 15, 2016, 06:50:04 pm
Clint
it's 95 yrds to the bear across the pond we can back up from there if we need to the road should put us close to 200 yds , if you need more jump in with the Canadian War Bow Society  on Saturday they go to a nearby field for flight shooting

I still have not made arrows  for mineand will probly  wait on some of Pats cain for mine
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on April 18, 2016, 07:00:42 pm
Got the super thin leather backing glued on, covering the sinew.  Now time to decorate and apply finish.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badger on April 18, 2016, 07:06:17 pm
Matt, I bet with some little 3 mm carbon arrows, fast flite string and floppy disk fletching you might get 300 yards or more.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on April 18, 2016, 07:28:54 pm
Floppy disk fletching?  As in a 3-1/2 inch floppy disk?  Interesting...
I plan on 1/4" cedar with goose feather fletching to keep the "natural" thing going.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badger on April 18, 2016, 08:42:53 pm
  Matt, I would use the densest wood you can find, the arrow will have such low mass as it is it will have problems fighting the fletches. I had some water buffalo horn sliced up into .010 thicknesses for fletches but I don't have any left. something very stiff and thin and maybe 1/8 high. paper might work. Tonkin cane is almost double the density of wood if you could find some short pieces of that.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: DC on April 18, 2016, 09:06:54 pm
How do you attach something like floppy disk material? It is kinda- floppy, and has no flange or whatsit.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on April 18, 2016, 09:21:49 pm
Looks like you are there Matt !
this has been a fun time and we are not even there yet!
se ya next week for a trial run
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on April 19, 2016, 08:13:23 am
  Matt, I would use the densest wood you can find, the arrow will have such low mass as it is it will have problems fighting the fletches. I had some water buffalo horn sliced up into .010 thicknesses for fletches but I don't have any left. something very stiff and thin and maybe 1/8 high. paper might work. Tonkin cane is almost double the density of wood if you could find some short pieces of that.

Steve:  I've got water buffalo horn milled down to about that.  It's super thin.  I milled it down when having to come up with reinforcements for my broken tip.  I'm also going to try some thin River cane that PatB is bringing.  I did shoot my little boy's 12" arrows through it which are 1/4" cedar but the fletching is taller.  They flew okay at about 10 yards in my basement.  I'll have to try your suggestion for flight shooting it.  What do you think about bamboo shish-kabob skewers?  I'm thinking they might be too small in diameter.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on April 19, 2016, 09:41:32 am
Matt, you can get 1/4" solid bamboo rods in the cake decorating isle at walmart.  There is some slightly smaller diameter bamboo grilling sticks in the camping section.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Aaron H on April 19, 2016, 09:44:44 am
I picked up some of those grilling sticks in the camping aisle at Wal-Mart this last weekend.  They measure .200".  I may have to go back and pick up the .250" cake decorating ones, thanks for the info Clint.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badger on April 19, 2016, 09:48:58 am
  We like to use about 1/4" for a 24" arrow, if you could get down closer to 1/8" it might be better. The very light weight of the arrows is what fights you at this point though. Not enough mas to carry them through the air. Tonkin cane is the only natural material I know of that has the real density that is needed.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Pat B on April 19, 2016, 01:11:56 pm
Matt, the hill cane I'm bringing for you guys are between 1/16" diameter up to about 3/8" diameter. This hill cane is pretty dense stuff.
 Steve, I'll be happy to send you some hill cane to try if you'd like.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on April 19, 2016, 03:00:04 pm
That'll be great, Pat.  Looking forward to seeing you.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on April 22, 2016, 04:30:54 pm
I was wondering how high a brace you guys are using, so far I've been at 2" cause these bows are a bear to brace
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on April 22, 2016, 04:52:49 pm
Bubby,
I scaled down a 64.5" ntn bow with a 6.5" brace height and I'm using 2.25" .  It shoots better than I can shoot it, if you know what I mean.
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on April 22, 2016, 05:04:35 pm
Thanks dbar, i figured someone would use a more logical approach than my typical wing it style
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on April 22, 2016, 05:22:45 pm
Matt, you can get 1/4" solid bamboo rods in the cake decorating isle at walmart.

Ya bake too, huh?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on April 22, 2016, 05:27:16 pm
Matt, you can get 1/4" solid bamboo rods in the cake decorating isle at walmart.

Ya bake too, huh?

I'm more of a taste tester
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on April 23, 2016, 12:05:34 am
I just finished up my mini bow.  That handle wrap gave me more trouble than anything else on it.  I'll post some pictures tomorrow.  Now I need to work on some arrows. 
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bjrogg on April 23, 2016, 06:58:53 am
I'm making 2 minies. 1st is a muskrat rawhide backed ash bow. I took good limb from my broken ash bow and cut it down. I call it Abbie-Normal "it's aliiiive" guess you had to see the movie Young Frankinstien to get that. It was 20 lbs @10" before backing.
   2nd is Sinew backed HHB. 1 1/2 layers haven't finished tiler waiting for sinew to cure some yet would like to find gardener snake to back. Maybe so Sunfish or Bluegills.
  Sorry can't seem to post pictures. I posted 3 before but no luck since.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on April 24, 2016, 12:11:53 am
Just almost finished(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/Mobile%20Uploads/20160423_151436_HDR_zpsin9vw0g5.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160423_151436_HDR_zpsin9vw0g5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on April 24, 2016, 12:16:49 am
That's a nice looking skin Bubby.  I didn't get time to take any good pictures of mine today.  I'm planning on making some arrows for it at the Classic.  I packed up all the supplies for them.


(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv22/Outlawstaves/20160422_235545_zpsyhmwdbit.jpg) (http://s666.photobucket.com/user/Outlawstaves/media/20160422_235545_zpsyhmwdbit.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on April 24, 2016, 12:46:35 am
Thanks Clint mine might not get shot till Marshall
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bjrogg on April 24, 2016, 07:51:38 am
My muskrat rawhide backed ash mini
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on April 24, 2016, 08:51:54 am
Mighty nice looking bows ..guys
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on April 24, 2016, 09:38:50 am
bj ...... look forward to seeing that in person!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bjrogg on April 24, 2016, 01:49:49 pm
Thanks knoll it'll be my 1st time there. I'm very much looking forward to showing and looking and learning and putting some faces to these user names.😃 Think I'll finish planting sugarbeets today hopefully they all come up good or I'll really get behind in my work.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on May 01, 2016, 09:06:11 pm
Lots of awesome entries heading towards  Marshall!
Anyone have a prize they want to offer up for the best scores, we can make this a real challenge!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on May 01, 2016, 11:02:54 pm
I'll put up a nice set of osage billets
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bjrogg on May 02, 2016, 06:28:30 am
If anybody would like them I'll make some
Mini primitive arrows.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on May 04, 2016, 06:09:36 pm
 Finished up my mini bow, now to get some arrows to shoot out of it (http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/Mobile%20Uploads/20160504_143152_HDR_zpsifoyf3zf.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160504_143152_HDR_zpsifoyf3zf.jpg.html)
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/Mobile%20Uploads/20160504_143002_HDR_zpsgkaya5kn.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160504_143002_HDR_zpsgkaya5kn.jpg.html)
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/Mobile%20Uploads/20160504_143121_HDR_zpsbybrqf3c.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160504_143121_HDR_zpsbybrqf3c.jpg.html)
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/Mobile%20Uploads/20160504_143134_HDR_zpsadl9lui3.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160504_143134_HDR_zpsadl9lui3.jpg.html)
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/Mobile%20Uploads/20160504_144106_HDR_zpsg5kueejp.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160504_144106_HDR_zpsg5kueejp.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on May 04, 2016, 06:41:11 pm
Finished up my mini bow, now to get some arrows to shoot out of it

Nice, Bub. Very nice!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bjrogg on May 04, 2016, 06:44:26 pm
Nice lookin Bow Bubby these things should be going in the BOM
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on May 04, 2016, 06:48:00 pm
Very nice Bubby.  What is the draw weight on that thing?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on May 04, 2016, 07:05:33 pm
Thanks Mike, bjrogg , I'm not sure Clint before i added the sinew in the middle it was around 25# and i know it's heavier than that now maybe 30-35# i know that short it's a stiff pull
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on May 04, 2016, 09:22:31 pm
Looks good and fast bubby...............

The question was raised as to what would be the challenge...shooting the course with accuracy and or distance...??
What do you Guys think?  I think 20 yards is a bit long for the mini's.  but the long distance shot at the bear across the lake would be fun..........
My vote would be closest at shooting the bear across the lake, and shooting the "practice" course  at the cub/youth distance for best score.

What do you think.
DBar

PS
Built mine for accuracy not distance...;)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on May 04, 2016, 09:27:38 pm
Thanks dbar, I'm with you on both the pond shoot and the practice course
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on May 04, 2016, 09:38:15 pm
Practice course @ cubs distance + across pond sounds fine.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on May 04, 2016, 09:39:17 pm
And maybe a sub prize for the best "looking" mini bow..........

.....turkey feather backing is mighty purty.....:)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bjrogg on May 04, 2016, 09:40:28 pm
I've never been to any range so I don't know what course is like, I'm very curious about what to expect for mini and full sized course. Distance size of target are there some from elevated platforms? What is behind if I miss target how many arrows might I break lol
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on May 04, 2016, 09:47:52 pm
Lots of lost arras............All I can say is lots of skunk cabbage behind the targets.................
Those who have been there know what I'm talkin about.
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on May 04, 2016, 10:17:43 pm
And maybe a sub prize for the best "looking" mini bow..........

.....turkey feather backing is mighty purty.....:)





So is horn belly lol
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: paulsemp on May 04, 2016, 11:23:35 pm
Mine's ready
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on May 04, 2016, 11:28:33 pm
Yet another nice one!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bjrogg on May 04, 2016, 11:32:39 pm
This is gonna be a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on May 04, 2016, 11:40:01 pm
Cool stick pauly
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on May 05, 2016, 12:00:34 am
Looks great Pauly.  I like how you used the coon tails on the skins
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Del the cat on May 05, 2016, 02:18:08 am
There are some gorgeous bows on here... anyone shot one through a chrono'?
Del
(Or are you afraid of skewering the chrono? >:D ;) )
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bjrogg on May 05, 2016, 06:09:49 am
I don't have chrono but it'd be interesting. They are quite zippy
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: lebhuntfish on May 05, 2016, 07:20:05 am
I'll bring one with me to Marshall!

Patrick
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on May 05, 2016, 08:01:31 am
Great Patrick,  Sounds like we have another challenge event.
This will be fun.......

The Outlaw and I will be arriving pulling the RRII sometime early Wednesday afternoon........
See ya soon,
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on May 05, 2016, 08:04:22 am
Sweet look'n mini Paul ..... really like those tips...  :)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on May 05, 2016, 08:11:56 am
Woah!  Bubby and Paul!  Very sweet looking bows!  We'll have to do a story or at a minimum, line them all up for some pics. 
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on May 05, 2016, 06:20:50 pm
Wow more great minibows !
throw down a challenge and just look what happens
As I have said before we have some of the finest bowyers in the world at The Marshall Primitive Archery Rendezvous and also some of the finest folks !
I count it a privilege to be able to spend a few days (and nights) with them.

my thinking on the challenge is
1 show up at The Marshall Primitive Archery Rendezvous  with a bow that fits the criteria  set forth
2 Shoot the coarse with it both for fun and to prove they are in fact bows that work
3 Give the bear across the pond  a go , to show off a bit
4 award a few prizes just because
5 Take lots of pictures
6 Talk about another "first in Primitive Archery"  beings done at Marshall for next many years

Just in case you didn't know by now The Marshall Primitive Archery Rendezvous holds a special place in my heart and I feel we owe it all the honor we can give it ! Many "a first " have been acomplished there .

I am also going to get this old shoulder loosened up enough to throw  some darts in honor of the first world championship Atltatl contests that were held there

are we there yet!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on May 05, 2016, 07:32:56 pm
What about next year we have an extra longbow challenge.  Maybe 12" taller than the bowyer?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bjrogg on May 05, 2016, 07:48:47 pm
That would work good for me I'm just a short guy I'd end up with a bow just right for somebody else.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on May 05, 2016, 08:20:43 pm
bjrogg,
Have you ever met Osage Outlaw.....I think he had the same idea..
Nice try Clint :)
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on May 05, 2016, 08:22:09 pm
Everything sounds good to me guy, but maybe a short course to shoot with these bows instead of the whole thing someone suggested the practice course. I might want to chuck a few darts too
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Blackcoyote on May 06, 2016, 08:05:35 am
We'll have to do a story or at a minimum, line them all up for some pics.

I'll bring my camera and get some pics
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on May 06, 2016, 08:11:17 am
A bow 12" taller than the shooter would be even for every one no matter how tall or short they are. 
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bjrogg on May 06, 2016, 08:19:13 am
That right Osage we'd just need a little shorter staves then the tall guys. ;)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on May 06, 2016, 10:09:01 am
A bow 12" taller than the shooter would be even for every one no matter how tall or short they are.

Actually, it would need to be done as a Percentage of the bowyer's height in order to be 'fair' or even to everyone.  So, for example, you'd have to say the bow needed to be 120% of the bowyer's height.  So, a five foot tall bowyer would have to make a bow 72 inches long (60 X 120%=72) and six foot five inch bowyer would have to make a bow 92 and a half inches long (77 X 120%=92.4).  I think we would probably want to agree from the outset what the percentage would be though, 120%? 130%? whatever...

OneBow
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bjrogg on May 06, 2016, 10:12:38 am
Your right me and Osage would be at a disadvantage at 12" over. I like your thinking probably could use even short stave. ;)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: paulsemp on May 06, 2016, 10:37:40 am
I say we make bundle bows or all green/wet survival bows.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on May 06, 2016, 10:49:00 am
I'd be up for that Pauly.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Urufu_Shinjiro on May 06, 2016, 10:51:54 am
Hmm, bows taller than archers, first to make a yumi wins, lol.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Aaron H on May 06, 2016, 12:08:16 pm
Survival bows sounds cool
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on May 06, 2016, 09:53:52 pm
Hmm, bows taller than archers, first to make a yumi wins, lol.

be carefull on the Yumi cause you never know when Japp may come driving in.
but then again maybe we should go for it and make him come judge  them!

The Marshall Yumi  challenge  for 2017 !
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on May 09, 2016, 08:15:50 am
As for the survival bow, you'd have to bring in a green piece of wood or harvest a fresh piece at Marshall.  Make it there under the pavilion.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on May 09, 2016, 12:40:43 pm
Gear "package" ready for the challenge.
Mini quiver, mini shootin' tab, mini arrows, and mini "D" bow.
Now gotta practice . . . . .

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/knolltop314/100_3615.jpg)

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/knolltop314/100_3614.jpg)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bjrogg on May 09, 2016, 12:46:57 pm
Lookin good Knoll. I've got 2 mini bows done and a few test arrows. Did a little shooting but need to do more and make more arrows
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on May 09, 2016, 01:07:13 pm
Nice rig, Mike.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on May 09, 2016, 01:45:49 pm
That's a fancy set up Mr. Knoll
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on May 09, 2016, 02:21:52 pm
That's a lot of arrows Mike, planning on missing a lot😈
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bjrogg on May 09, 2016, 02:25:44 pm
He might be the only one with enough to shoot the coarse. If there that hard to find I might have to tie a string on mine  :)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on May 09, 2016, 02:33:52 pm
I only plan on missing three times, so I'll be out of arras on the first target😜
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on May 09, 2016, 02:36:50 pm
I'm almost done with 27 mini arrows.  I figure that will give me enough for a 20 target range and 7 for the across the pond shot. 
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on May 09, 2016, 02:42:01 pm
I hope we don't shoot a full 20 we might not ever get done
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bjrogg on May 09, 2016, 02:43:04 pm
With my shooting skills I'll probably only need about 10 dozen more
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on May 09, 2016, 02:44:09 pm
I'm going to leave a trail of hot pink bamboo skewers through the skunk cabbage.  ;D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on May 09, 2016, 03:12:27 pm
Can ya imagine shootin' at the turkey and deer from last year's tree stand using these mini's? Whewww!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Aaron H on May 09, 2016, 03:41:26 pm
Great set knoll
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on May 09, 2016, 04:21:43 pm
Thanks, all, for kind words. I am sooooo looking forward to the days with ya'll!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on May 09, 2016, 06:17:35 pm
I hope we don't shoot a full 20 we might not ever get done

I'm with on that bub.....
Mike nice looking stuff right there........
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on May 09, 2016, 06:19:18 pm
I'm going to leave a trail of hot pink bamboo skewers through the skunk cabbage.  ;D

:) :) :) :)  HAHA
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on May 09, 2016, 10:13:22 pm
Anybody  try for distance  yet ?
just wondering how heavy a arrow we need to get the 90+yds to the bear.

wow Mike nice set
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on May 10, 2016, 07:12:42 am
Guy they will shoot wayyyyy over the bears back. 110-150 yards should be no problem. Tip weight is what dictates a lot of that.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: lebhuntfish on May 10, 2016, 08:17:11 am
Onebowwonder and myself got together last night for a little while and got some mini bow work done.
Bamboo backed Osage with bacotie overlays. For some reason the particular piece of Osage we used for our mini bows I happen to be allergic to. So Eric is working with the bows and I'm making the arrows.
Here is a couple of pictures of our progress.

Patrick

(http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w668/lebhuntfish1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-05/20160509_201800_zpscfm2djau.jpg) (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/lebhuntfish1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-05/20160509_201800_zpscfm2djau.jpg.html)

(http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w668/lebhuntfish1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-05/20160509_201645_zps4osjzp0o.jpg) (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/lebhuntfish1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-05/20160509_201645_zps4osjzp0o.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on May 10, 2016, 09:44:46 am
bbo! That oughta be a launcher.

I've had no luck with short arrows. Spine's been too much.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on May 10, 2016, 09:46:49 am
Mike nice looking stuff right there........
DBar

Was gonna put the guinea-feathered arras on top. As usual, I forgot!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: lebhuntfish on May 10, 2016, 10:43:54 am
It does shoot pretty quick. Those are solid bamboo dowels. I picked up at wally world.

Patrick
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on May 10, 2016, 09:13:19 pm
Guy they will shoot wayyyyy over the bears back. 110-150 yards should be no problem. Tip weight is what dictates a lot of that.

I am not seeing these 12 -15 " arrows going that far, not that I have a place to shoot that far with them yet there just does not seem to be enough weight  to carry very far and if they have weight they are to stiff to shoot right
Shot a 24 "arrow that was more promising looking in flight
Need to get out of town and let some rip so I will know for sure
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on May 10, 2016, 10:11:48 pm
Decided to give distance a try today. 12" arrow w/ 60 grn tip. Simple D profile is my bow. 105 yds. Paced the distance .... didn't measure it. Shot that distance twice. Couple other shots were 90+.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on May 10, 2016, 10:14:21 pm
If it would ever quit raining here I will try mine for distance. 
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on May 11, 2016, 07:57:48 am
And you doubted me about distance, Guy Dasher!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: missilemaster on May 11, 2016, 08:07:07 am
If it would ever quit raining here I will try mine for distance.

Make a little raincoat for it!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on May 11, 2016, 05:35:35 pm
That is what I wanted to hear Mike

Pearly I did not doubt it just wanted to get some info on what we are using cause I need to know what arrows not to loose on the corse!
Are we there yet ?!!!!!!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on May 11, 2016, 07:03:39 pm
I've been tell'in you guys these little things shoot....The guys at Moontree saw a mini feather backed bow shoot at a 100yd bedding deer target.  and was just a bit over and to the right of it.... that bow still had more distance in it   Sorry Guy holding arrow info confidential until Marshall.  :) ;)
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on May 11, 2016, 09:37:07 pm
I've been tell'in you guys these little things shoot....The guys at Moontree saw a mini feather backed bow shoot at a 100yd bedding deer target.  and was just a bit over and to the right of it.... that bow still had more distance in it   Sorry Guy holding arrow info confidential until Marshall.  :) ;)
DBar

Come on help an old man out , running out of time here  :laugh:
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on May 11, 2016, 09:49:03 pm

Are we there yet ?!!!!!!
Guy it will be here and gone before we know it .................damn it..........
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on May 12, 2016, 06:50:21 am
Just bring a cobbler mix and everything will be just fine big guy!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on May 12, 2016, 07:11:24 am
Guy, if you need some arrows I'll have enough to share.   
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Blackcoyote on May 12, 2016, 07:56:45 am
Just bring a cobbler mix and everything will be just fine big guy!

Maybe 2, both my boys asked if that was going to be at dinner on Saturday  >:D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on May 12, 2016, 10:04:14 am
Believe we have at least 2 dutch oven maestros at this year's Marshall festivities!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on May 14, 2016, 01:29:59 pm
Does this look about right ?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on May 14, 2016, 01:37:19 pm
Looks pretty sweet from here Guy......................
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on May 14, 2016, 03:02:27 pm
Couple of other ideas
had to have one for the English bows
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on May 14, 2016, 03:04:16 pm
Don't know if it shows wellbut hand forged today!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on May 14, 2016, 04:21:27 pm
Nice work Guy!  I finished the last of my arrows today.  I'll be posting pictures soon.

I'm impressed with the effort and craftsmanship that everyone has put into these little bows.  It shows the quality of bowyers that gather in Marshall Michigan each Memorial Day weekend.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on May 14, 2016, 04:49:18 pm
Hand-forged, Guy? Gonna be a treat to see those!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on May 14, 2016, 07:28:45 pm
Only did a couple , just figured we should have some there !
Because we can .
hope to get some other heads from differant mmaterials done but running low on time

This has been the best and most fun challenge  yet and we ain't even there yet!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on May 14, 2016, 11:29:09 pm
I finally got my mini bow set done and ready for Marshall.  It's 24" of osage, sinew, and a baby rattlesnake skin.  The tip overlays are big horn sheep.  I left the outside of the horn on the overlays. 

(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv22/Outlawstaves/20160514_225702_zpsjadh2pvk.jpg) (http://s666.photobucket.com/user/Outlawstaves/media/20160514_225702_zpsjadh2pvk.jpg.html)

(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv22/Outlawstaves/20160514_225909_zpsuskcwkbd.jpg) (http://s666.photobucket.com/user/Outlawstaves/media/20160514_225909_zpsuskcwkbd.jpg.html)

(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv22/Outlawstaves/20160514_225919_zpsy68p1rxp.jpg) (http://s666.photobucket.com/user/Outlawstaves/media/20160514_225919_zpsy68p1rxp.jpg.html)

(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv22/Outlawstaves/20160514_225618_zpsn94fxzvi.jpg) (http://s666.photobucket.com/user/Outlawstaves/media/20160514_225618_zpsn94fxzvi.jpg.html)

(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv22/Outlawstaves/20160514_225540_zpse3mfqsdl.jpg) (http://s666.photobucket.com/user/Outlawstaves/media/20160514_225540_zpse3mfqsdl.jpg.html)


I have two different sizes of arrows.  I went with a high visibility color.  The smaller diameter arrows have self nocks and a .22 casing on the end with a small nail through the end.  I used epoxy putty to make a bullet point on them.  It seems to be holding up good.  I need to redo the epoxy on one arrow.

(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv22/Outlawstaves/20160514_225443_zpsm6sl3jnh.jpg) (http://s666.photobucket.com/user/Outlawstaves/media/20160514_225443_zpsm6sl3jnh.jpg.html)

(http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv22/Outlawstaves/20160514_225455_zpsodg43y0p.jpg) (http://s666.photobucket.com/user/Outlawstaves/media/20160514_225455_zpsodg43y0p.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on May 15, 2016, 12:29:51 am
That kit looks great Clint i like the horn tips alot
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Aaron H on May 15, 2016, 08:26:25 am
Very nice set Clint.  Looks like your hip quiver is part garage door opener.  ;D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on May 15, 2016, 08:40:51 am
Good eye Aaaaron
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on May 15, 2016, 08:53:38 am
Wow Clint good job
I may just as well leave my junk at home , don't stand a chance against you fellows and a ll your fancy stuff.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Del the cat on May 15, 2016, 09:10:47 am
I took a limb from that rawhide backed Yew Heartwood bow which I destruction tested and made this mini bow.
Ok I won't get to Marshall, but you can't keep a good cat down :laugh:
35# at 12"
Del
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on May 15, 2016, 09:17:43 am
That's a lot of bend Del.  Nice job.  I was expecting to see tiny horn nocks.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on May 15, 2016, 09:55:48 am
Del .... send it to Guy. It will get shot!!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Del the cat on May 15, 2016, 10:32:49 am
Del .... send it to Guy. It will get shot!!
If he PMs me an address I can see what shipping is like.
Del
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: mullet on May 15, 2016, 10:43:55 am
I know how you feel, Del. I want to make one now and i'm not going to Marshal either.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Badger on May 15, 2016, 11:30:41 am
Clint, beautiful set up you have. What are the weight on the arrows? Bows draw weight?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on May 15, 2016, 11:56:41 am
I know how you feel, Del. I want to make one now and i'm not going to Marshal either.





So whats stopping you😈
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on May 15, 2016, 12:21:18 pm
I haven't measured the draw weight or arrow weight.  I know the bow is very stout with the sinew backing.  Just guessing I'd say its 40 lbs or so.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Del the cat on May 15, 2016, 03:05:34 pm
I've tidy up my Mini bow and shaped the bottom nock into a sort of parrot face... or something... well you decide :laugh:
Hope to get it shipped out tomorrow.
Del
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on May 15, 2016, 03:33:44 pm
Thanks to Del for making this an international challenge.
Who'd a thought the excitement/interest this has engendered!
10 days!!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bjrogg on May 15, 2016, 03:42:35 pm
Really cool Del looks kinda like a turtle. I'd highly recommend anyone to make one of these, there fun to make teach some good thilering skills and there fun to shoot. You can literally make one from a slightly long piece of firewood, scrapes or broken bows.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: lebhuntfish on May 15, 2016, 10:11:58 pm
Here is an accuracy shot for you guy's. I'm not super consistent but not bad.

Patrick

(http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w668/lebhuntfish1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-05/20160515_210609.png_zps2n1f6nud.jpeg) (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/lebhuntfish1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-05/20160515_210609.png_zps2n1f6nud.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: mullet on May 15, 2016, 10:15:11 pm
Good shooting, Patrick. I cut out a piece of Yew this afternoon.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on May 15, 2016, 10:17:57 pm
Good shootin', Pat. I can't do that well anymore with a 66"-er!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: lebhuntfish on May 15, 2016, 10:32:10 pm
Thanks,  I was consistently shooting left,  so instead of adjusting the arrow spine I just canted the bow till it flew straight.

Patrick
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Del the cat on May 16, 2016, 07:18:46 am
The bow is signed as the UK Entry  ;D and posted  :laugh: (I went for 5 day delivery to make sure it gets there in time )
Always the same when I ship something, it's always just over the size limit >:( so quadrouples in price :(
The ladies in the post office were a laugh... I said
"It's still cheap, I couldn't get there for that price"
One one of the other ladies said to me "she could on her broomstick!" :o pointing at the lady serving me!
Who replied... "I'll get her for that when she wants a favour" >:D
Del
BTW. No arrows included, I'm sure some can be begged borrowed or otherwise obtained. They won't let us ship anything with feathers to the US... mind I hadn't made any arrows anyhow
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Knoll on May 16, 2016, 09:49:10 am
The bow is signed as the UK Entry  ;D and posted  :laugh: (I went for 5 day delivery to make sure it gets there in time )

Will be looking for it! Yeah, am sure we can find some ammo.
Everyone but Pearl will likely give it a pull ... am told Pearl's bow mojo errs on destructive side.    >:D
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: lebhuntfish on May 16, 2016, 11:23:00 am
That is really cool Del! I'm glad that you were able to send it to us here in the US. I can't wait to see the little thing! Thanks for doing this build, I wish you could be there to join in all the fun.

Patrick
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on May 16, 2016, 09:30:45 pm
Wow more nice bows !
Dell can't wait to shoot some proper yew !
Thanks for getting involved in this challenge we are having a blast with it
I have a hand forged bodkin specially made for your bow , hope black feather are good with you !
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on June 01, 2016, 05:20:02 pm
I would say that there was a tie in this contest about a 16 way tie cause everyone who participated had great fun and even learned a bit !
Thank you  to all
Not sure we can top this one but hope we give it a good try
See ya all next year
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Pat B on June 01, 2016, 06:29:33 pm
I've been curious what kind of distances you guys got with the mini bows.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on June 01, 2016, 06:49:47 pm
80+ yards Pat, the wind affected accuracy on some shots. The outlaw claimed the accuracy win cause he killed a frog, but he shotbit from 18" lol
Dbars bow and Cody's were beautiful bows and Bill's feather backing in person is unbelievable
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on June 01, 2016, 07:12:59 pm
Thanks Bub, I really enjoy doing the feather backing....but all the bows were very special, yours and Matt with the horn lams and all the mini skins.  There was even a mollie mini.  and you can't forget Guys and Dan (Bowmo) bows.

Clint and I did some shooting and stepping off some of the distance. We didn't have a real good place to shoot, some of the arrows ended up in the woods.  Clint can chime in.......But, we stepped off some of the shots at about 125 - 130 yards.

There were a few pictures of all the different arrows in a target bag that was real cool looking but I didn't take any pictures.  Maybe someone has some pictures of all the mini's they could post.
 
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on June 01, 2016, 07:16:50 pm
We had no problem reaching the bear across the pond at 90 yds not sure  if Clint ever found his distance shots as they were into the woods
I may try some tonight in a grass area.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on June 01, 2016, 07:31:20 pm
My phone wont post on here but here is a link
https://www.facebook.com/MarshallPrimitiveArchryRedezvous/
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on June 01, 2016, 07:40:07 pm
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/snakey/paulys%20bow/20160528_140424_HDR_zpsfhb50uw5.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/snakey/paulys%20bow/20160528_140424_HDR_zpsfhb50uw5.jpg.html)
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/snakey/paulys%20bow/20160528_143837_HDR_zpsqrjs0aav.jpg) (http://s623.photobucket.com/user/bubncheryl/media/snakey/paulys%20bow/20160528_143837_HDR_zpsqrjs0aav.jpg.html)
I have a video of Matt shooting his across the pond
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on June 01, 2016, 07:41:46 pm
(http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/snakey/paulys%20bow/th_20160528_142924_zpsjgehn9vn.jpg) (http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt320/bubncheryl/snakey/paulys%20bow/20160528_142924_zpsjgehn9vn.mp4)
Just touch the pic for video
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: ajooter on June 01, 2016, 08:29:22 pm
I bet you guys had a blast!!  One of these days ill make it there!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on June 01, 2016, 08:58:43 pm
Pat
I shot 112 yds with a severely abused 30 lb bow with a nettle string and a 110 grain arrow from your mini hill cane shafting
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on June 01, 2016, 09:07:22 pm
Fantastic Guy!!!! 
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on June 01, 2016, 09:21:14 pm
Me and Cody found my distance shot across the 90 yard pond.  It was 35-40 yards up the hill from the water.  I think I could come close to 150 yards on a flat surface with a full draw. 


Bubby, I'm not sure what you are talking about with the frog.  But if I were to kill one with a mini bow it would have been more like 4 or 5 feet away, not 18"  ;)   And I already claimed the accuracy winner after the 3 clay targets I busted.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on June 01, 2016, 09:24:35 pm
You folks need to post pics of the mini bows as most of them are unbelievable

Clint did do some good shooting!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on June 01, 2016, 09:25:54 pm
  And I already claimed the accuracy winner after the 3 clay targets I busted.
So true .....so true ..............
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on June 01, 2016, 09:29:25 pm
I had an advantage.  I was closer to full draw than anyone else. 
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bubby on June 01, 2016, 09:52:17 pm
I had an advantage.  I was closer to full draw than anyone else. 




You WERE at full draw lol
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: lebhuntfish on June 02, 2016, 01:02:20 am
The mini bows were awesome and amazingly built. I believe that there should be a special bow of the month for these little guys.
Here are a few of the pics I took of our mini's.

Patrick

(http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w668/lebhuntfish1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-05/20160528_140349_zpsitsfegj4.jpg) (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/lebhuntfish1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-05/20160528_140349_zpsitsfegj4.jpg.html)

(http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w668/lebhuntfish1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-05/20160528_140659_zpseer3acy5.jpg) (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/lebhuntfish1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-05/20160528_140659_zpseer3acy5.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on June 02, 2016, 08:09:49 am
I fell just short of clearing the tallest tree behind the bear target across the pond.  When we left the shoot, I noticed a newly plowed farm field.  It was within walking distance of campsite.  I sure wish we would have noticed it before and lined up for a flight shoot.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Urufu_Shinjiro on June 02, 2016, 10:31:07 am
Thanks all, I was looking forward to you guys reporting back about this, nice work all of you, incredible stuff!
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: DC on June 02, 2016, 11:36:38 am
Did Blackhawk show up and shoot his? It was his idea.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on June 02, 2016, 01:02:06 pm
No but two of his bows were there.  One the owner asked for it to be retillered because it had a lot of hand shock and they couldn't shoot it.  The other bow was mine and we destroyed it.  We ran it over, shot it with arrows, snapped the limbs, and then we burnt it. 
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on June 02, 2016, 01:07:00 pm
Other than that, no, he wasn't there. :)

Patrick spent his time rebuilding the shocky bow for the gal that owned it. He didn't have to, he didn't know her, but he did the right thing and that why he is now a member of the A-Team. A very exclusive club of genuine good guys.

Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: paulsemp on June 02, 2016, 01:14:45 pm
Nothing like a good old Viking funeral
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Stringman on June 02, 2016, 03:37:45 pm
Nothing says fairwell like the burning of osage.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: lebhuntfish on June 02, 2016, 04:06:35 pm
Amen!

Thanks again,  we have the other one with us to. Eric is going to fix this one and send it back to her. Guy worked on it for a good while,  the first thing he done was scrape off the blacklisters name.

Patrick
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Onebowonder on June 02, 2016, 04:20:00 pm
Amen!

Thanks again,  we have the other one with us to. Eric is going to fix this one and send it back to her. Guy worked on it for a good while,  the first thing he done was scrape off the blacklisters name.

Patrick

Eric hopes this repair is not beyond his feeble skill set's capacity, but every effort will be invested.

OneBow
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Urufu_Shinjiro on June 02, 2016, 04:33:41 pm
ooh, savage...lol
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Blackcoyote on June 03, 2016, 09:29:22 am
Did Blackhawk show up and shoot his? It was his idea.

No, he was scared of going snap, crackle, pop after lying and ripping people off.  But that's other story, and not worth giving him any more attention over.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on June 05, 2016, 04:24:26 pm
I found out we have a distance measuring wheel at work.  I'm going to bring my mini bow in tomorrow and see what it will do.  There is a very flat mowed area where I can shoot it.  I'll report back with the results.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on June 06, 2016, 04:46:45 pm
In a decent cross wind my best shot was 368 feet.  I was a little disappointed. 
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on June 06, 2016, 05:55:49 pm
Sounds good to me Clint
we are not really set up for flight shooting
we should do0 some studying up on it and get our arrows tuned better for distance.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on June 06, 2016, 07:13:20 pm
Sounds good to me Clint
we are not really set up for flight shooting
we should do0 some studying up on it and get our arrows tuned better for distance.

I want to make another one that is more center shot and a little heavier draw.  I want to hit 150 yards.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on June 06, 2016, 08:37:35 pm
Hey, Clint want to shoot mind with my arra's............:) ;)
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on June 06, 2016, 08:46:48 pm
I can test it out for you if you want.  I want to make some smaller arrows like yours when I make a new one. 
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Danzn Bar on June 06, 2016, 09:09:36 pm
Your a good man mister outlaw.........I would love to test this little bow and arrows...

I scaled down every aspect from a 66" ntn 55# R&D bow....shooting 10 grains / # draw weigth arrows

"I"  should have coordinated an official shoot at Marshall...I'll do better next time.....got caught up in all the fun we were having....I think everyone would have enjoyed the detailed results.
DBar
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on June 07, 2016, 05:27:05 pm
I may do another try that has not been so heavily abused (15 inches of draw may have given me a bit of set LOL)
And modern string material will mak e a difference also

Yea we do get to having fun and forget the rest don't we
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: mullet on June 07, 2016, 08:10:40 pm
How about, Pappy willing, a mini-bow flight shoot at the Classic next year?

Maybe we can start a whole new Flight Bow category.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on June 07, 2016, 08:47:30 pm
I would be up for that.  We might have to do it early in the week before the crowd fills up all of the fields. 
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: mullet on June 07, 2016, 08:59:32 pm
I'd bet they would clear a section after the first volley. >:D

We could always set a place up across the road.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on June 07, 2016, 09:51:26 pm
Mullet, we almost had to launch a volley of mini arrows at the neighbors at Marshall.  They deserved it. 
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Pat B on June 07, 2016, 11:36:02 pm
I like this idea. I'd like to build a mini bow and give it a try. I was really impressed with the cool lil bows I saw at the classic this year.
 If the mini hill cane was an acceptable arrow for the minis I have an untapped supply of them I would like to offer. All I gotta do is cut it.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on June 08, 2016, 07:03:33 am
My wife had me grilling burgers when the guys went to shoot the minis, I never took my horse out of HER stall...... :(



Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on June 08, 2016, 07:53:17 am
My wife had me grilling burgers when the guys went to shoot the minis, I never took my horse out of HER stall...... :(

It's probably a good thing.  You wouldn't have been able to compete with the big dogs anyway. 
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: bjrogg on June 08, 2016, 08:07:14 am
I somehow missed it too. Mine is still pretty fresh and not to abused if I get a chance I'll try a distance shot before everything grows to tall in the fields.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: Buckeye Guy on June 08, 2016, 12:04:48 pm
You folks get practiced up and Clint  Matt and I will give you one more chance at this thing next LOL
The saga continues! !!
Maybe the jug shoot and the Bear a cross the pond
What say you ?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: MWirwicki on June 10, 2016, 01:18:54 pm
I see no reason why any of them won't survive until then.  If it's okay with Pappy, let's do the distance shot, Clint.  If I think of it, I'll get out in an empty field by my house and give her a whirl.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: osage outlaw on June 10, 2016, 02:07:01 pm
Sounds good Matt.  I think I over stressed mine.  It hasn't taken any more set but it doesn't seem as hard to pull as it did at Marshall.  Just another reason to build another one.
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: jaxenro on August 21, 2016, 07:57:21 am
These have got to be the coolest things. I won't single any one bow out as they are all so amazing. I have always likes miniatures made several dozen miniature knives over the years (funny I only have a couple of the rejects left the rest all seem to have gone to friends) in 1:3 scale and am working on a 1:4 scale longbow using totally inappropriate wood I had in the closet for making miniature furniture (but I do have some yew and rosewood for belly's on order with some exotic wood backing strips to make more)

How do you make the strings? Would silk work? And can anyone point me to a simple string making tutorial?
Title: Re: Marshall Mini Bow Challenge
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on August 21, 2016, 09:00:44 am
The strings are just Flemish twist strings, same as full length bows. I think I used 4 strands of D97 for mine.